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28 Oct 2025
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@glepage:matrix.orgGaétan LepagePeak performance packaging by the pytorch folks20:26:56
@sporeray:matrix.orgRobbie BuxtonOmg20:27:54
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29 Oct 2025
@connorbaker:matrix.orgconnor (he/him)Thanks, I hate it01:08:50
@connorbaker:matrix.orgconnor (he/him)

1 PR merged fixing nsight_systems GUI, 3 PRs merged with package expression tidying and support for more releases (from CUDA legacy), and 1 PR ready to go for the changelog: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/456510

There are still a bunch of redist packages to introduce in CUDA legacy and find requirements for :/

Also still need to make a PR to drop all the packages with “withCuda” variants…

And then there’s the setup hook work 🫩

04:40:06
@connorbaker:matrix.orgconnor (he/him)Is that good?04:40:42
@glepage:matrix.orgGaétan LepageYes and no, the "+125" is mostly the new stuff introduced by the CUDA 13 PR.08:48:19
@connorbaker:matrix.orgconnor (he/him)This may be worth considering: https://github.com/garnix-io/yensid14:56:27
@ss:someonex.netSomeoneSerge (back on matrix)Neat, literally haproxy16:00:07
@glepage:matrix.orgGaétan Lepage

FYI, the update to the latest torch 2.9.0 was just merged!

Changelog: https://github.com/pytorch/pytorch/releases/tag/v2.9.0

We also just added torchcodec a media decoder/encoder working along with PyTorch

23:19:33
30 Oct 2025
@glepage:matrix.orgGaétan Lepage connor (he/him) (UTC-7) any idea what, in the CUDA 13 PR, could be responsible for gcc-wrapper leaking into the firefox derivation? 21:42:34
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❮ nix-build --arg config '{ allowUnfree = true; cudaSupport = true; }' -A firefox
this derivation will be built:
  /nix/store/7s1dyndj7r33wck6dywjf6kqxah7ngm2-firefox-144.0.2.drv
building '/nix/store/7s1dyndj7r33wck6dywjf6kqxah7ngm2-firefox-144.0.2.drv'...
structuredAttrs is enabled
error: output '/nix/store/b3cyrj28jf03mrf15jmy9whhfrgy2bxw-firefox-144.0.2' is not allowed to refer to the following paths:
         /nix/store/x8mydcgbry214s802nzvy7fdljx404ym-gcc-wrapper-14.3.0
21:42:54
@connorbaker:matrix.orgconnor (he/him)Check onnxruntime22:04:03
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@glepage:matrix.orgGaétan Lepage Probably nccl's fault... 22:18:18
31 Oct 2025
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@connorbaker:matrix.orgconnor (he/him)gonna slow down and take a step back for a bit03:18:20
@daniel-fahey:matrix.orgDaniel Fahey

You said upfront "The addition of CUDA 13 does not mean packages will suddenly work with CUDA 13. Expect breakages." I know I'm just a random bloke from GitHub an fairly new but I've had really bad burnout in the past, I'd suggest still doing a little bit of triaging and technical support here and there for the CUDA Team in strict time blocks, so you can at least see the fruits of your labour (given to the world, for free) as the breakages all get sorted out in the coming weeks in our collective efforts.

From my perspective I'm just excited about the prospect of using CUDA 13 with Nixpkgs, I've basicaly used nixos-unstable, sometimes master, since starting to use Nix, and still have no idea how the release cycle is supposed to work 🙃.

I reckon for the next big CUDA update, do something like how the haskell-updates branch gets merged into staging first.

10:26:33
@daniel-fahey:matrix.orgDaniel Fahey *

You said upfront "The addition of CUDA 13 does not mean packages will suddenly work with CUDA 13. Expect breakages." I know I'm just a random bloke from GitHub and fairly new but I've had really bad burnout in the past, I'd suggest still doing a little bit of triaging and technical support here and there for the CUDA Team in strict time blocks, so you can at least see the fruits of your labour (given to the world, for free) as the breakages all get sorted out in the coming weeks in our collective efforts.

From my perspective I'm just excited about the prospect of using CUDA 13 with Nixpkgs, I've basicaly used nixos-unstable, sometimes master, since starting to use Nix, and still have no idea how the release cycle is supposed to work 🙃.

I reckon for the next big CUDA update, do something like how the haskell-updates branch gets merged into staging first.

10:26:44
@connorbaker:matrix.orgconnor (he/him)I mean I’ll still be around, just not doing as much. I’ll still be in the team weeklies, etc.14:35:31
@connorbaker:matrix.orgconnor (he/him)CUDA 13 isn’t the default because the stuff we have in tree is too old or doesn’t support it; the expect breakages was in reference to trying to use CUDA 13 as the default.14:36:20
@connorbaker:matrix.orgconnor (he/him)Haskell stuff goes into staging (at least partly) because of the sheer number of packages, to allow Hydra to churn through them. None of our stuff is built upstream, so there’s not really a point.14:37:36
@sporeray:matrix.orgRobbie Buxton I think also a fair amount of stuff upstream doesn’t even build with cuda 13 yet either 14:37:54
@connorbaker:matrix.orgconnor (he/him) Yeah NVIDIA does not care outside of projects they dedicate engineering hours to supporting, and changing the default version of OpenCV or other large projects to a commit from master adding support would be dead on arrival, and trying to special case it just for when CUDA is configured would be difficult. 14:39:51
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