| 10 Mar 2026 |
 Gaétan Lepage | I got you connor (burnt/out) (UTC-8)
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/498523 | 11:52:20 |
| Gaétan Lepage | We do have libcublasmp. Is this doc outdated? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/development/cuda-modules/README.md#distinguished-packages | 12:31:03 |
 connor (he/him) | Ah yep it’s outdated, I packages nvshmem: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/development/cuda-modules/packages/libnvshmem.nix | 15:28:13 |
| Gaétan Lepage | connor (burnt/out) (UTC-8) if I want to bump libcublasmp (to 0.7.x) for example, how do I know which cudaPackage_X should be affected? | 17:36:23 |
| connor (he/him) | A very deep reading of the changelog, package contents changes, and thorough rebuilds and runtime verification for consumers | 17:38:14 |
| connor (he/him) | Yet another reason we need test suites for downstream packages which exercise those libraries — relying on NVIDIA’s samples (if they’re even available) isn’t sufficient because we care about whether consumers break | 17:39:46 |
| connor (he/him) | All of the assertions I added to the packages were the result of a ton of reading and gleaning meaning through changelogs and actual package contents changes | 17:40:16 |
| Gaétan Lepage | Sounds like a ton of fun :') | 17:47:23 |
|  Cameron Barker joined the room. | 18:18:26 |
| 11 Mar 2026 |
 Kevin Mittman (jetlagged/UTC+8) | Redacted or Malformed Event | 01:54:11 |
| Gaétan Lepage | connor (burnt/out) (UTC-8) would you agree with a 12.8 -> 12.9 global bump before messing around with 13.0? | 11:05:21 |
|  Theuni changed their display name from Theuni to Christian Theune. | 14:13:00 |
| connor (he/him) | Sure! I remember some weird breakages a while back when I had wanted to bump immediately after 12.9 became available, but hopefully they’re all resolved by now :) | 16:08:54 |
| Gaétan Lepage | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/498861 | 16:43:46 |
| Gaétan Lepage | connor (burnt/out) (UTC-8)
About https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/498681, I plan to build torch and vllm. If this works fine, I will merge it.
With the CUDA PRs on the way, I won't have the capacity to exhaustively test all of them.
No objection on your side? | 23:37:24 |
| Gaétan Lepage | (same reasonning for https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/498678#issuecomment-4035473707). | 23:39:46 |
| Gaétan Lepage | * (same reasonning for https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/498678). | 23:39:52 |
| connor (he/him) | Sounds good! I’ll leave a comment on them | 23:51:04 |
| Gaétan Lepage | I'm testing the CUDA bump more thoroughly though.
~1.3k rebuilds left (out of 1.8k) | 23:53:19 |
| Gaétan Lepage | * connor (burnt/out) (UTC-8)
About https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/498681, I plan to build torch and vllm. If this works fine, I will merge it.
With all the CUDA PRs in the queue, I won't have the capacity to exhaustively test all of them.
No objection on your side? | 23:54:04 |
| 12 Mar 2026 |
| Theuni changed their display name from Christian Theune to Theuni. | 07:18:55 |
| 4 Aug 2022 |
|  Winter (she/her) joined the room. | 03:26:42 |
| Winter (she/her) | (hi, just came here to read + respond to this.) | 03:28:52 |
 tpw_rules | hey. i had previously sympathzied with samuela and like i said before had some of the same frustrations. i just edited my github comment to add "[CUDA] packages are universally complicated, fragile to package, and critical to daily operations. Nix being able to manage them is unbelievably helpful to those of us who work with them regularly, even if support is downgraded to only having an expectation of function on stable branches." | 03:29:14 |
| Winter (she/her) | In reply to @tpw_rules:matrix.org
i'm mildly peeved about a recent merging of something i maintain where i'm pretty sure the merger does not own the expensive hardware required to properly test the package. i don't think it broke anything but i was given precisely 45 minutes to see the notification before somebody merged it ugh, 45 minutes? that's... not great. not to air dirty laundry but did you do what samuela did in the wandb PR and at least say that that wasn't a great thing to do? (not sure how else to word that, you get what i mean) | 03:30:23 |
| tpw_rules | no, i haven't yet, but i probably will | 03:31:03 |
| Winter (she/her) | i admittedly did that with a PR once, i forget how long the maintainer was requested for but i merged it because multiple people reported it fixed the issue. the maintainer said "hey, don't do that" after and now i do think twice before merging. so it could help, is what i'm saying. | 03:31:50 |
| tpw_rules | i'm not sure what went wrong with the wandb PR anyway, i think it was just a boneheaded move on the maintainer's part | 03:32:10 |
| Winter (she/her) | (it was also simple enough that it was fine and the maintainer said it looked good after) | 03:32:15 |
| tpw_rules | * i'm not sure what went wrong with the wandb PR anyway, i think it was just a boneheaded move on the merger's part | 03:32:19 |
