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Bruno Rodrigues | dear all, anyone has experience with julia.withPackages ? I’m not sure I understand if shell that use julia.withPackages would be reproducible? | 08:08:52 |
Bruno Rodrigues | so for example | 08:10:02 |
Bruno Rodrigues | let
pkgs = import (fetchTarball "https://github.com/rstats-on-nix/nixpkgs/archive/2025-03-10.tar.gz") {};
rpkgs = builtins.attrValues {
inherit (pkgs.rPackages)
dplyr
janitor
reticulate;
};
tex = (pkgs.texlive.combine {
inherit (pkgs.texlive)
scheme-small
amsmath;
});
jlconf = pkgs.julia_110.withPackages [
"RDatasets"
"TidierData"
];
system_packages = builtins.attrValues {
inherit (pkgs)
R
glibcLocales
nix;
};
shell = pkgs.mkShell {
LOCALE_ARCHIVE = if pkgs.system == "x86_64-linux" then "${pkgs.glibcLocales}/lib/locale/locale-archive" else "";
LANG = "en_US.UTF-8";
LC_ALL = "en_US.UTF-8";
LC_TIME = "en_US.UTF-8";
LC_MONETARY = "en_US.UTF-8";
LC_PAPER = "en_US.UTF-8";
LC_MEASUREMENT = "en_US.UTF-8";
buildInputs = [ rpkgs tex jlconf system_packages ];
};
in
{
inherit pkgs shell;
}
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Bruno Rodrigues | nixpkgs are pinned, so R and Python packages are pinned | 08:10:55 |
Bruno Rodrigues | but with julia.withPackages, the julia packages come from outside nixpkgs | 08:11:26 |
Bruno Rodrigues | so building this expression in, say, 6 months, could result in another shell, if in the meantime the julia packages get updated, no? | 08:12:01 |
SomeoneSerge (Ever OOMed by Element) | julia.withPackages pins a revision of whatsthename registry, which it fetches and ingests back into the nix interpreter using IFD | 16:34:32 |
SomeoneSerge (Ever OOMed by Element) | So it's hermetic-ish in the usual sense | 16:36:09 |
SomeoneSerge (Ever OOMed by Element) | @brodriguesco:matrix.org: | 16:36:53 |
Bruno Rodrigues | yes, now I see that it imports ./registry.nix which pins the julia packages defined on another repo | 17:53:42 |
Bruno Rodrigues | pretty cool, but if I understand this correctly, the packages were updated for the last time in july 2024: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/eac352421d185289c24005e21a7d9ad360a55e4f | 17:54:29 |
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SomeoneSerge (Ever OOMed by Element) | Yeah... if you're planning to pick up on julia, you might also want to look into simplifying the withPackages implementation, because right now it generates .nix code for IFD instead passing JSON through the interface: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/eac352421d185289c24005e21a7d9ad360a55e4f/pkgs/development/julia-modules/python/sources_nix.py#L58-L66 | 19:57:56 |
SomeoneSerge (Ever OOMed by Element) | The story for extending the registry or for mixing dynamic and static graphs is also unexplored | 19:58:54 |
19 May 2025 |
Bruno Rodrigues | honestly I don't think I have the skills to do so 😆 but I'll start studying it in more detail. Julia always interested me but I never had any reason to use it. but making it available through my R package, rix, which simplifies the creation of reproducible shells for R users might be a good motivator to start digging | 07:45:12 |
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