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8 Oct 2023
@nixos-wiki-rcbot:fairydust.spacenixos-wiki-rcbot [[Rust]] https://nixos.wiki/wiki/index.php?diff=10362&oldid=10265 * Proski * (0) ldd -> lld (lld is a linker, ldd is a tool to list shared library dependencies) 22:02:47
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9 Oct 2023
@chanceharrison:matrix.org@chanceharrison:matrix.org
In reply to @winny:matrix.org
Cf has a nasty rep of breaking stuff for random end users. I have a friend in MN who still to this day can't access any CF resources. Might have to find a different internet connection. Sorry about that. I'm not an admin, just personal experience.
Thanks for sharing your personal experience. I have no reason to believe this is due to my connection since I can otherwise access the site normally (and hardly ever encounter CF blocks on other sites) but something about submitting a wiki page edit triggers the CF WAF that's enabled on the wiki.
02:17:39
@chanceharrison:matrix.org@chanceharrison:matrix.orgI would personally suggest that we look into whether certain wiki accounts (i.e., those that are manually approved?) could be exempted (or at least handled more leniently) from the blocking02:18:35
@chanceharrison:matrix.org@chanceharrison:matrix.org
In reply to @winny:matrix.org
Cf has a nasty rep of breaking stuff for random end users. I have a friend in MN who still to this day can't access any CF resources. Might have to find a different internet connection. Sorry about that. I'm not an admin, just personal experience.
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Thanks for sharing your personal experience. I have no reason to believe this is due to my connection since I can otherwise access the site normally (and hardly ever encounter CF blocks on other sites) but something about submitting a wiki page edit triggers the CF WAF that's enabled on the wiki.

Edit: I actually don't know whether it's Cloudflare's WAF that's responsible here or if it's one of their other security-related offerings. Unless there is some infrastructure transparency that I don't know about, I have no clue what the problem is. But I would like to this we could figure out a solution that both protects the wiki while not blocking legitimate use.

02:23:10
@chanceharrison:matrix.org@chanceharrison:matrix.org *

Thanks for sharing your personal experience. I have no reason to believe this is due to my connection since I can otherwise access the site normally (and hardly ever encounter CF blocks on other sites) but something about submitting a wiki page edit triggers the CF WAF that's enabled on the wiki.

Edit: I actually don't know whether it's Cloudflare's WAF that's responsible here or if it's one of their other security-related offerings. Unless there is some infrastructure transparency that I don't know about, I have no clue what the problem is. But I would like to this we could figure out a solution that both protects the wiki while not blocking legitimate use and that would be easier if we knew what was going on behind-the-scenes.

02:23:30
@winny:matrix.org@winny:matrix.orgIf I were to be completely honest you don't need cf. It's just our approach to maximizing what feels like a $5 VPS for everything. 02:23:57
@chanceharrison:matrix.org@chanceharrison:matrix.orgI'm all for maximizing said $5 VPS, and if CF if part of that, I'm all for it. I would just also prefer to be able to contribute to the wiki. 02:25:09
@chanceharrison:matrix.org@chanceharrison:matrix.org * I'm all for maximizing said $5 VPS, and if CF is part of that maximization, I'm all for it. I would just also prefer to be able to contribute to the wiki. 02:25:26
@chanceharrison:matrix.org@chanceharrison:matrix.org * I'm all for maximizing said $5 VPS, and if CF is part of that maximization, I'm all for it. I would just prefer to be able to contribute to the wiki as well. 02:25:44
@chanceharrison:matrix.org@chanceharrison:matrix.org * I'm all for maximizing said $5 VPS, and if CF is part of that maximization, I'm all for it. I would just prefer to be able to contribute to the wiki as well. 02:25:53
@nixos-wiki-rcbot:fairydust.spacenixos-wiki-rcbot [[Zsh]] https://nixos.wiki/wiki/index.php?diff=10363&oldid=10244 * Alex-glez-felix * (+2) The property to access oh my zsh was wrong according to https://rycee.gitlab.io/home-manager/options.html#opt-programs.zsh.oh-my-zsh 06:44:09
@fadenb:utzutzutz.netfadenb
In reply to @artturin:matrix.org

Jose just activated a bunch of quite aggressive rules on Cloudflare and also banned a whole country that originated the bulk of the requests.
This might affect normal usage, if someone notices some breakage please ping me, I'll forward it

Winny (Need a fast response? email: matrix@winny.tech)
ChanceHarrison

If you can access the wiki at all you are not affected by the country-wide ban.
I am not sharing details here as we by now know that the attackers are on this channel <insert disappointment emoji of your choice here>
08:18:56
@artturin:matrix.orgartturinOk btw the all reviewing in the editor is broken08:42:33
@artturin:matrix.orgartturin* Ok btw all the reviewing in the editor is broken08:42:48
@artturin:matrix.orgartturinAnd edit don't show up08:43:35
@fadenb:utzutzutz.netfadenbWiki was down for <10 minutes due to hardware defect. The hoster migrated the VM to another host13:51:08
@nixos-wiki-rcbot:fairydust.spacenixos-wiki-rcbot [[Sandbox]] https://nixos.wiki/wiki/index.php?diff=10364&oldid=10201 * Fadenb * (+7) testing after forced host migration 13:52:47
@nixos-wiki-rcbot:fairydust.spacenixos-wiki-rcbot [[Special:Log/Newusers]] create * Fwam * (0) 15:29:02
@artturin:matrix.orgartturinWhat hoster are you using that is so unreliable. I want to know so i don't have to use it ever.18:57:07
@artturin:matrix.orgartturin * What hoster are you using that is so unreliable. I want to know so i don't use it ever.18:57:13
@artturin:matrix.orgartturin * What hoster are you using that is so unreliable. I want to know so i don't use it ever.18:57:17
@artturin:matrix.orgartturin * What hoster are you using that is so unreliable. I want to know so I don't use it ever.18:57:20
@artturin:matrix.orgartturin * What hoster are you using that is so unreliable?. I want to know so I don't use it ever.18:58:40
@artturin:matrix.orgartturin * What hoster are you using that is so unreliable?(At least it feels like that because there's often slowdowns). I want to know so I don't use it ever.19:26:18
@fadenb:utzutzutz.netfadenbCurrent Frontend is on Vultr19:27:46
@fadenb:utzutzutz.netfadenb Though I can tell you that they are as reliable as the next one 19:28:02
@fadenb:utzutzutz.netfadenb If you do not check large numbers you will never have a realistic view of reliability 19:28:57
@fadenb:utzutzutz.netfadenbOperating in the megawatt scale at dayjob I know real world failure rates19:30:53
@artturin:matrix.orgartturinJust saying what it felt like19:31:14

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