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@artturin:matrix.orgArtturinI bet most of the pages haven't been updated in the cache since I manually purged almost all of them 10 months ago00:17:11
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturin makefu 00:17:28
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturinNot sure who has access to the settings00:19:15
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturin fadenb 00:20:34
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturin* Solutions: Disable the cache Or purge the cache when a page is edited Or delete the files in the cache dir hourly 00:37:03
@nixos-wiki-rcbot:fairydust.spacenixos-wiki-rcbot [[OpenGL]] https://nixos.wiki/wiki/index.php?diff=6224&oldid=6223 * Samuela * (+22) 02:58:58
@nixos-wiki-rcbot:fairydust.spacenixos-wiki-rcbot [[OpenGL]] https://nixos.wiki/wiki/index.php?diff=6223&oldid=5882 * Samuela * (+107) 02:58:58
@nixos-wiki-rcbot:fairydust.spacenixos-wiki-rcbot [[Flakes]] https://nixos.wiki/wiki/index.php?diff=6225&oldid=6204 * Artturin * (-155) link to nix-unstable-installer instead of keeping a outdated command 03:12:59
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@fadenb:utzutzutz.netfadenb
In reply to @artturin:matrix.org
If a user isn't logged in then the page will be out of date
Yes. This is a known "issue" and has been like this since basically forever with mediawiki
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@fadenb:utzutzutz.netfadenbIn addition to mediawiki caching there is for a while now the cloudflare cache on top...11:00:53
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@fadenb:utzutzutz.netfadenbWithout going into to much detail: Without the mediawiki or some other cache in front the page would go down several times per week due to massive scans hitting it11:02:14
@fadenb:utzutzutz.netfadenbe.g. yesterday someone hit the webserver with the amount of traffic it usually sees within a day over the course of 5 minutes 🤷11:03:44
@fadenb:utzutzutz.netfadenbThe cloudflare stuff could be optimized quite a bit if there were more page rules allowed. The free tier limits it to 3. There is also some code that should be able to do purges on Cloudflare when a page is updated floating around the mediawiki universe but it did look rather hacky the last time I checked it.11:10:24
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturinActually it seems that the edited pages are already recached but the page where it's already added isn't https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Nixpkgs ```{{Special:PrefixIndex/{{FULLPAGENAME}}/ |hideredirects=1 |stripprefix=1}}```14:42:59
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturin* Actually it seems that the edited pages are already recached but the page where it's already added isn't https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Nixpkgs ``` {{Special:PrefixIndex/{{FULLPAGENAME}}/ |hideredirects=1 |stripprefix=1}} ```14:43:08
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturin* Actually it seems that the edited pages are already recached but the page where it's automatically added isn't https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Nixpkgs ``` {{Special:PrefixIndex/{{FULLPAGENAME}}/ |hideredirects=1 |stripprefix=1}} ```14:45:39
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturin *

Actually it seems that the edited pages are already recached but the page where it's automatically added isn't
https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Nixpkgs

{{Special:PrefixIndex/{{FULLPAGENAME}}/ |hideredirects=1 |stripprefix=1}}
15:17:18
@fadenb:utzutzutz.netfadenb
In reply to @artturin:matrix.org

Actually it seems that the edited pages are already recached but the page where it's automatically added isn't
https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Nixpkgs

{{Special:PrefixIndex/{{FULLPAGENAME}}/ |hideredirects=1 |stripprefix=1}}
Yup, common mediawiki issue 🤷
Do you by any chance know whether a cache purge is enough or whether more is needed to recalculate those things?
15:42:15
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturini assume a cache purge is enough because then then page will be recached the next time someone visits it15:44:26
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturinall pages can be cached at once with this maintenance script https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Manual:rebuildFileCache.php15:44:42
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturinthis can be used to purge the cache https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:PurgeList.php15:45:20
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturin php purgeList.php --purge --all 15:45:56
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturin * i assume a cache purge is enough because then page will be recached the next time someone visits it15:47:12
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturin

fadenb: Could you set a email account for my user so i dont have to use github to log in? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:ResetUserEmail.php
https://stackoverflow.com/a/56306364

 php maintenance/resetUserEmail.php Artturin artturin@artturin.com
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@artturin:matrix.orgArtturincan't do it on the website because i need to have a password to do that 18:03:35
@nixos-wiki-rcbot:fairydust.spacenixos-wiki-rcbot [[JAX]] N https://nixos.wiki/wiki/index.php?oldid=6226&rc_id=6461 * Samuela * (+2008) Created page with "[https://github.com/google/jax JAX] is a framework for program transformation, esp. for automatic differentiation and machine learning. It's available on Nix/NixOS in the 18:56:31
@nixos-wiki-rcbot:fairydust.spacenixos-wiki-rcbot [[JAX]] https://nixos.wiki/wiki/index.php?diff=6227&oldid=6226 * Samuela * (+81) 18:59:31
@nixos-wiki-rcbot:fairydust.spacenixos-wiki-rcbot [[Kubernetes]] https://nixos.wiki/wiki/index.php?diff=6228&oldid=6115 * Nateinaction * (+74) Discovered that port 8888 must be open to pull certs during node join 19:59:37

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