| 3 Dec 2025 |
 gshpychka | I have the bluetooth menu and didn't set any custom flags/options. unless jovian-nixos adds that by default | 17:35:17 |
 K900 | We do | 17:35:25 |
 niklaskorz | I didn't use Jovian because I wanted to see for myself what the minimally working config for my needs would be | 17:36:07 |
| K900 | Oh god | 17:36:36 |
| gshpychka | oh - you're not using jovian, are you? | 17:36:39 |
| K900 | Please don't use nixpkgs gamescopeSessoin | 17:36:41 |
| K900 | * Please don't use nixpkgs gamescopeSession | 17:36:43 |
| gshpychka | got it, thanks | 17:36:45 |
| K900 | It's horrendously wrong | 17:36:46 |
| gshpychka | in what way? | 17:37:07 |
| K900 | Most of them | 17:37:40 |
| gshpychka | that's not helpful | 17:39:43 |
| K900 | Look I can't write you a design document about how to do session management | 17:40:31 |
| K900 | But I can tell you that Jovian does it right | 17:40:35 |
| K900 | And nixpkgs programs.steam.gamescopeSession absolutely does not | 17:40:45 |
| gshpychka | anyway - thanks a lot! could you share a more complete setup (with a greeter, autostart/etc)? maybe in a private message | 17:40:49 |
| gshpychka | I thought it would be reasonable to expect you to be able to provide a high-level explanation of the ways it does it wrong | 17:41:33 |
| K900 | It is extremely hard to do so without also explaining the entire user session flow in systemd | 17:42:00 |
| niklaskorz | it's horrendously primitive probably fits it better, so I fully expected many things to not work | 17:43:42 |
| niklaskorz | that considered, it worked remarkably well | 17:43:47 |
| niklaskorz | literally does nothing more than set a few env vars and execute the gamescope binary | 17:44:40 |
| niklaskorz | I have no doubt Jovian's session is superior, but I'm happy I started out with the primitive setup first to see what works and what doesn't | 17:45:51 |
| gshpychka | I got a DM notification from you, but can't really message you - encryption issues apparently. | 18:08:18 |
| niklaskorz | Matrix ✨ | 18:20:39 |
| gshpychka | yup. I got your message just now, but mine stay in "Encrypting..." | 18:21:45 |
| 4 Dec 2025 |
 Sean | would anyone know why I can't use MANGOHUD=1 %command% anymore without the game window never opening? | 03:20:39 |
 woobilicious | Are all those threads on the same CCD? I thought it was just 0-15?, but that might explain why I get bad performance doing 2 threads per core in some games | 04:21:19 |
| woobilicious | So anyone else here have problems with Steam loading resources on nixos-unstable? been plagued by half loaded images for like 2 weeks now | 04:26:54 |
 Atemu | IIRC it was 0-7,15-23 (or the inverse of that) | 06:50:42 |
| Atemu | *16-23; just as Niklas set it now that I look at it again ^^' | 07:06:22 |
