| 13 Jul 2025 |
 K900 | You can't mount fuse from inside a userns I'm pretty sure? | 07:30:51 |
 woobilicious | What use would a windows game have for fuse? | 07:31:07 |
| K900 | p-v is also used for native games | 07:31:25 |
| K900 | With the later runtimes | 07:31:28 |
 @lotte:chir.rs | In reply to @woobilicious:matrix.org
What use would a windows game have for fuse? before i knew about appimage-run i tried steam-run-ing it | 07:31:30 |
| K900 | Oh no steam-run is not pressure-vessel at all | 07:31:40 |
| K900 | steam-run is just our own bwrap fhsenv | 07:31:45 |
| @lotte:chir.rs | …oh | 07:31:47 |
| K900 | It's just a very very SMALL fhsenv | 07:31:53 |
| woobilicious | oh is it? restract my statement then lol | 07:31:54 |
| K900 | So it probably doesn't have enough stuff | 07:32:01 |
| K900 | For appimages to run | 07:32:04 |
| K900 | It is literally just enough fhsenv to bootstrap Steam and feed it our graphics drivers | 07:32:17 |
| woobilicious | yeah you need to pass in extraPkgs arg IIRC | 07:32:24 |
| @lotte:chir.rs | In reply to @k900:0upti.me
So it probably doesn't have enough stuff it didn't read like it's a missing dependency | 07:32:26 |
| @lotte:chir.rs | but tbf I haven't tried in a while | 07:32:38 |
| K900 | Well it very likely was because appimage-run is also just a fhsenv | 07:32:49 |
| K900 | But a much much bigger one | 07:32:50 |
| @lotte:chir.rs | because, like, appimage-run exists | 07:32:55 |
| @lotte:chir.rs | In reply to @k900:0upti.me
Well it very likely was because appimage-run is also just a fhsenv ah | 07:33:05 |
| woobilicious | you can still access nix inside p-v, so I suspect there's stuff you can do with LD_LIBRARY_PATHs to get apps working | 07:33:41 |
| woobilicious | Charlotte 🦝 (it/its): you know about the PRESSURE_VESSEL_SHELL=instead %command% launch trick that opens a terminal inside p-v? | 07:36:22 |
| @lotte:chir.rs | i haven’t no | 07:36:55 |
| woobilicious | ahh, it launcher bash inside xterm, it's PITA to read/use, but can be very useful for debugging issues. | 07:37:35 |
| K900 | That's for actual p-v issues though | 07:37:57 |
| K900 | Not fhsenv issues | 07:38:00 |
| @lotte:chir.rs | valve stuff ends up feeling like a switch stuck on more magic though | 07:38:09 |
| K900 | Honestly not really | 07:38:17 |
| K900 | It's very well documented | 07:38:20 |
| K900 | https://gitlab.steamos.cloud/steamrt/steam-runtime-tools/-/tree/main/docs | 07:38:24 |
