| 22 Mar 2025 |
 Sean | similar stutter behavior | 03:12:26 |
| Sean | I'll try hotfix | 03:13:01 |
 olivia | if you test with the benchmark, worth double-checking that the log messages are actually similar to the ones you were seeing earlier, and that the same PSO hash mismatch messages still correlate with the stutters | 03:13:34 |
| Sean | okay will do | 03:13:49 |
| Sean | yeah did the same thing in proton experimental bleeding edge | 03:28:07 |
| olivia | nice! | 04:30:29 |
| 23 Mar 2025 |
|  Brisingr left the room. | 05:56:53 |
 nyanbinary 🏳️⚧️ | the artifacts r getting worse | 14:00:30 |
| nyanbinary 🏳️⚧️ | 😭 | 14:00:35 |
| nyanbinary 🏳️⚧️ | cant even play nubby's number factory smh | 14:00:54 |
|  thexaman joined the room. | 18:39:14 |
 Atemu | Thankfully, mesa is downgradeable rather well these days | 20:04:04 |
| 24 Mar 2025 |
 aktaboot | if it's with the fw graphical thing, I'm taking ideas on what triggers it, hunting down the bug but it's not trivial to trigger | 12:50:49 |
| aktaboot | * if it's with the FW graphical thing, I'm taking ideas on what triggers it, hunting down the bug but it's not trivial to trigger | 12:50:56 |
| aktaboot | I'm also explicitly looking for either consistent graphical glitches or the ring gfx_0.0.0 timeout error in amdgpu kernel logs | 12:53:28 |
| aktaboot | basically this ^ | 12:54:08 |
| aktaboot | (because I'm also hitting kernel Warnings and some graphical resets on external and internal monitors: the screen blacks out and then reconnects) | 12:55:50 |
 Makuru 📞(WAAF / 4850) | I am on a very recent version of NixOS unstable and somehow don't experience the mesa glitches with my Framework 16. | 12:57:37 |
| aktaboot | yeah they're not easy to trigger so you might not trigger them | 12:59:49 |
| aktaboot | I've found firefox and youtube helps to start things up but not consistent | 13:00:04 |
| Makuru 📞(WAAF / 4850) | In reply to @aktaboot:tchncs.de
I've found firefox and youtube helps to start things up but not consistent Huh, when I game, I tend to have, LibreWolf with YouTube open in the background. | 13:02:14 |
| nyanbinary 🏳️⚧️ | Hmm weird | 14:45:25 |
| nyanbinary 🏳️⚧️ | It happens when under high GPU load for me | 14:45:31 |
| Makuru 📞(WAAF / 4850) | Huh, maybe the fps cap saves me? | 14:45:54 |
| Makuru 📞(WAAF / 4850) | I don't have the fw USB C PSU to power the laptop, so maybe it doesn't have enough power? | 14:47:36 |
 Marie | I have a friend with a framework 13 on Arch Linux and Mesa 25, and he's also not experiencing the graphical glitches | 15:37:28 |
|  @neopolitan:kde.org changed their profile picture. | 17:22:31 |
| olivia | I didn't read the whole thing, but it sounded in the issue like it was a firmware version thing? | 17:45:53 |
| olivia | (which would not be tied to the mesa version) | 17:46:36 |
|  Hayden R. (they/them) changed their display name from softwing (they/them) to softwing 🩷💛🤍💜💙 (they/them). | 19:18:53 |
