| 15 Nov 2025 |
 ElvishJerricco | (I still don't really understand how "getting it right" actually works) | 12:23:37 |
 ari ❄ | this sounds like a gamescope-shaped problem | 12:29:06 |
| ElvishJerricco | possibly | 12:29:22 |
 niklaskorz | In reply to @elvishjerricco:matrix.org
(I still don't really understand how "getting it right" actually works) In regards to games, the only way to get it right is to never apply scaling of any kind to Xwayland windows | 13:36:25 |
 K900 | Eh, not really? | 13:37:38 |
| K900 | Wine implements Windows DPI aware APIs | 13:37:48 |
| niklaskorz | Yes but those are not applied at the compositor level | 13:38:48 |
| niklaskorz | I'm referring to the unfortunate reality that most compositors are scaling up the X frame buffers | 13:39:17 |
| niklaskorz | Instead of only communicating scale through environment variables which is the default on KDE nowadays | 13:39:40 |
| niklaskorz | * I'm referring to the unfortunate reality that most compositors are scaling up the Xwayland frame buffers | 13:41:13 |
| niklaskorz | And then just letting X applications that aren't scaling aware suffer their tiny existence | 13:41:41 |
| niklaskorz | In reply to @k900:0upti.me
Wine implements Windows DPI aware APIs I agree though that "scaling of any kind" was wrongly phrased by me | 13:47:33 |
| niklaskorz | But at this point it doesn't really matter enough anymore to put more efforts into fixing it. The only blocker for me to disable Xwayland altogether is basically the Steam overlay not working in Wayland. | 13:50:28 |
| niklaskorz | upstream issue btw: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/3767 | 14:10:01 |
| ElvishJerricco |
No, you misunderstand, xwayland-native-scale doesn't cause blurring, it's always clear, this should be a mode that KDE doesn't have. Conversely, turning off xwayland-native-scale causes blurring.
oh god
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| ElvishJerricco | I have returned from this thread more confused than when I started :P | 14:20:55 |
| ElvishJerricco | what is actually happening in KDE with fractional scaling? It communicates scale to wayland apps and they see the real resolution of the monitor and scale themselves? And for X11 apps it depends on that "Apply scaling themselves / Scaled by the system" option? | 14:24:08 |
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 Daniel | I thought AMD GPUs were always faster under Linux? But ARC Raiders runs slower. Could it be due to a missing configuration? | 07:07:13 |
| K900 | That is most definitely not the case | 07:07:34 |
| K900 | Any time you see "X is always faster than Y" that's wrong | 07:07:43 |
 Marie | I haven't played it on Windows, but ARC Raiders runs really well for me on linux | 08:04:38 |
| Marie | besides the driver version check | 08:04:48 |
| QuadRadical (Ping) | samee | 16:26:52 |
| QuadRadical (Ping) | i mean, you just say no, a minor annoyance at most yeah | 16:27:02 |
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