| 21 Oct 2024 |
 Atemu | Oh it's still under active development? | 06:39:28 |
| Atemu | Or was it just a shader caching update | 06:39:35 |
 Sami Liedes | Aha, so some steam games actually by default (even on non-nix?) use non-steam-provided libraries by default? | 06:39:44 |
 K900 | It's a Paradox game, it's under active make more DLC | 06:39:45 |
| Sami Liedes | * Aha, so some steam games actually by default (even on non-nix?) use non-steam-provided libraries? | 06:39:49 |
| K900 | In reply to@sliedes:hacklab.fi
Aha, so some steam games actually by default (even on non-nix?) use non-steam-provided libraries? The default is to use system libraries | 06:40:01 |
| K900 | Well, was | 06:40:02 |
| Sami Liedes | Ok. | 06:40:07 |
| K900 | Until last week | 06:40:07 |
| K900 | And developers had to explicitly opt into the pressure-vessel containerized runtimes | 06:40:21 |
| Sami Liedes | Even on non-NixOS? Interesting. | 06:40:30 |
| Sami Liedes | I didn't know that :) | 06:40:37 |
| Atemu | Wait I thought it was only beta? | 06:40:38 |
| K900 | Now Valve is presumably confident enough in pressure-vessel to enable it by default | 06:40:40 |
| K900 | In reply to@atemu12:matrix.org
Wait I thought it was only beta? Well yes | 06:40:51 |
| K900 | But it'll be on release in a week or so probably | 06:40:58 |
| K900 | Valve does not generally do feature trains | 06:41:06 |
| Sami Liedes | No, actually I think I got the update because I forced a compatibility tool and the default was proton, so I suspect it downloaded some Windows version :P | 06:41:30 |
| Atemu | Ah, right it does that when you force proton | 06:42:01 |
| Atemu | It should cancel that when you change back though | 06:42:09 |
| Sami Liedes | Right. | 06:42:13 |
| Atemu | Though I once got SteamVR stuck in a state where it'd always attempt to download the Windows version on startup of Steam | 06:42:58 |
| Atemu | Man that was annoyin | 06:43:01 |
| Atemu | * Man that was annoying | 06:43:03 |
| Sami Liedes | How does this work, where is that runtime logic applied? If I use steam-run from command line, it doesn't, but if I start the game from the Steam UI, it does? Or is steam-run something more than just FHS? | 06:43:26 |
| Atemu | How does what work? | 06:43:51 |
| Atemu | steam-run is just the steam fhsenv but with bash instead of steam startup | 06:44:17 |
| Sami Liedes | Yeah, it works if I force the steam runtime 3.0. | 06:44:19 |
| Atemu | Okay, that's good to know | 06:44:33 |
| Atemu | Then your issue wouldn't have cropped up in the future | 06:45:08 |
