| 21 Oct 2024 |
 Atemu | Nothing | 06:37:37 |
| Atemu | That's what @K900 meant will be changed soon | 06:37:46 |
 Sami Liedes | That is, system packages? | 06:37:49 |
| Atemu | No, it'll use whatever is present in the fhsenv container | 06:38:05 |
| Sami Liedes | Right, that's what I basically meant :P | 06:38:15 |
| Atemu | Which is currently the minimal set of packages that satisfies Steam such that you can run Proton games | 06:38:38 |
| Atemu | And newer games that use the steam runtime by default | 06:38:50 |
| Sami Liedes | Let's see, the game just got updated, hope it didn't mess up things more 😅 | 06:39:01 |
| Atemu | Oh it's still under active development? | 06:39:28 |
| Atemu | Or was it just a shader caching update | 06:39:35 |
| Sami Liedes | Aha, so some steam games actually by default (even on non-nix?) use non-steam-provided libraries by default? | 06:39:44 |
 K900 | It's a Paradox game, it's under active make more DLC | 06:39:45 |
| Sami Liedes | * Aha, so some steam games actually by default (even on non-nix?) use non-steam-provided libraries? | 06:39:49 |
| K900 | In reply to@sliedes:hacklab.fi
Aha, so some steam games actually by default (even on non-nix?) use non-steam-provided libraries? The default is to use system libraries | 06:40:01 |
| K900 | Well, was | 06:40:02 |
| Sami Liedes | Ok. | 06:40:07 |
| K900 | Until last week | 06:40:07 |
| K900 | And developers had to explicitly opt into the pressure-vessel containerized runtimes | 06:40:21 |
| Sami Liedes | Even on non-NixOS? Interesting. | 06:40:30 |
| Sami Liedes | I didn't know that :) | 06:40:37 |
| Atemu | Wait I thought it was only beta? | 06:40:38 |
| K900 | Now Valve is presumably confident enough in pressure-vessel to enable it by default | 06:40:40 |
| K900 | In reply to@atemu12:matrix.org
Wait I thought it was only beta? Well yes | 06:40:51 |
| K900 | But it'll be on release in a week or so probably | 06:40:58 |
| K900 | Valve does not generally do feature trains | 06:41:06 |
| Sami Liedes | No, actually I think I got the update because I forced a compatibility tool and the default was proton, so I suspect it downloaded some Windows version :P | 06:41:30 |
| Atemu | Ah, right it does that when you force proton | 06:42:01 |
| Atemu | It should cancel that when you change back though | 06:42:09 |
| Sami Liedes | Right. | 06:42:13 |
| Atemu | Though I once got SteamVR stuck in a state where it'd always attempt to download the Windows version on startup of Steam | 06:42:58 |
