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28 Dec 2024
@tuxiqae:matrix.orgtuxiqae
In reply to @k900:0upti.me
Yes, that's normal
It is? Aren't the linux packages always aligned?
19:55:19
@atemu12:matrix.orgAtemuThis is the headers20:01:34
@atemu12:matrix.orgAtemuThe public API of the kernel doesn't change very often20:01:44
@atemu12:matrix.orgAtemuCertainly not with minor releases20:01:55
@atemu12:matrix.orgAtemuAnd if you land a patch that does, you're going to get yelled at by Linus20:02:41
@atemu12:matrix.orgAtemuhttps://lkml.org/lkml/2012/12/23/7520:03:42
@sigmasquadron:matrix.orgSigmaSquadronThe last swear being censored while everything else is not is super funny to me20:06:04
@tuxiqae:matrix.orgtuxiqae
In reply to @atemu12:matrix.org
The public API of the kernel doesn't change very often
I just remember that when I used to use Arch (🤢) the Linux and headers were always aligned
20:18:17
@k900:0upti.meK900Well Arch doesn't need a world rebuild to update the kernel headers20:21:52
@atemu12:matrix.orgAtemuWell, they should20:22:25
@atemu12:matrix.orgAtemuIt's easy to forget how easy it is to nail down an issue to one particular change in Nix 20:22:59
@atemu12:matrix.orgAtemuBut we could do the same; it'd just take a staging cycle20:23:13
@atemu12:matrix.orgAtemuBut it's just simply not necessary to do very often20:23:29
@tuxiqae:matrix.orgtuxiqaeI see, thanks!20:41:17
30 Dec 2024
@atemu12:matrix.orgAtemuhttps://www.phoronix.com/news/RadeonSI-ACO-Default-Pre-GFX1012:19:17
@atemu12:matrix.orgAtemuMight perhaps be possible to build mesa.drivers without depending on LLVM-lib at runtime soon12:19:38
@tuxiqae:matrix.orgtuxiqae
In reply to @atemu12:matrix.org
Might perhaps be possible to build mesa.drivers without depending on LLVM-lib at runtime soon
What's the upside of that?
12:21:49
@atemu12:matrix.orgAtemuLeaner closure12:21:58
@tuxiqae:matrix.orgtuxiqae Leans closer 12:31:05
@k900:0upti.meK900
In reply to@atemu12:matrix.org
Might perhaps be possible to build mesa.drivers without depending on LLVM-lib at runtime soon
It is already possible, technically
13:03:04
@aktaboot:tchncs.deaktabootthat would circumvent the rocm breakage?13:09:27
@k900:0upti.meK900No13:10:48
@k900:0upti.meK900Mesa uses mainline LLVM13:10:58
@k900:0upti.meK900Only ROCm itself uses the weird ROCm branch13:11:07
@k900:0upti.meK900And really fixing the LLVM bits is probably pretty easy13:11:37
@k900:0upti.meK900It's the rest of that thing that's not13:11:41
@atemu12:matrix.orgAtemuI don't get why it needs to be an LLVM fork13:12:07
@atemu12:matrix.orgAtemuWhy not just do it upstream?13:12:12
@k900:0upti.meK900Because they want to ship it a year ago 13:12:46
@k900:0upti.meK900And not whenever upstream accepts their changes 13:12:54

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