| 13 Jul 2025 |
|  @exaltia:chat.exaltia.fr joined the room. | 04:00:02 |
 RoGreat | Have a PR that uses UMU Launcher that is waiting to be merged: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/402220 | 05:12:53 |
 woobilicious | Is Valve planning this? or do you think they would be perceptive to the idea? | 05:55:31 |
 K900 | Actually they can't lolsob | 06:37:38 |
| K900 | Because they have to load ambient libraries to even set up the container | 06:37:48 |
| woobilicious | I guess just need a custom loader? lol | 06:43:33 |
| K900 | "Just" | 06:47:52 |
| K900 | Just ABI match libc what could possibly go wrong | 06:48:18 |
 @lotte:chir.rs | i wonder why pressure-vessel doesn’t use user namespaces? | 07:27:51 |
| @lotte:chir.rs | maybe it does but it behaves more like .so-injection sandboxing | 07:28:19 |
| K900 | It does | 07:28:42 |
| K900 | It's a proper container | 07:28:47 |
| @lotte:chir.rs | ah | 07:29:29 |
| @lotte:chir.rs | nvm then | 07:29:42 |
| @lotte:chir.rs | i guess stuff like fuse not working in it is probably an intentional limitation? | 07:29:57 |
| woobilicious | Where did you get that idea from? steam overload injects, but I don't think there's anything else that's injected. | 07:29:59 |
| woobilicious | * Where did you get that idea from? steam overlay injects, but I don't think there's anything else that's injected. | 07:30:24 |
| K900 | You can't mount fuse from inside a userns I'm pretty sure? | 07:30:51 |
| woobilicious | What use would a windows game have for fuse? | 07:31:07 |
| K900 | p-v is also used for native games | 07:31:25 |
| K900 | With the later runtimes | 07:31:28 |
| @lotte:chir.rs | In reply to @woobilicious:matrix.org
What use would a windows game have for fuse? before i knew about appimage-run i tried steam-run-ing it | 07:31:30 |
| K900 | Oh no steam-run is not pressure-vessel at all | 07:31:40 |
| K900 | steam-run is just our own bwrap fhsenv | 07:31:45 |
| @lotte:chir.rs | …oh | 07:31:47 |
| K900 | It's just a very very SMALL fhsenv | 07:31:53 |
| woobilicious | oh is it? restract my statement then lol | 07:31:54 |
| K900 | So it probably doesn't have enough stuff | 07:32:01 |
| K900 | For appimages to run | 07:32:04 |
| K900 | It is literally just enough fhsenv to bootstrap Steam and feed it our graphics drivers | 07:32:17 |
