| 10 Jul 2025 |
 jasi 🏳️⚧️ | the attribute is umu-launcher and you can enter into a nix shell with it and test | 02:05:14 |
| jasi 🏳️⚧️ | Lutris uses umu for its windows runner | 02:05:37 |
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| 11 Jul 2025 |
 K900 | @aidalgol so now that Heroic uses UMU for Proton, can we un-fhsenv it? | 20:14:17 |
 aidalgol | Probably... it would break using older Wine-GE, but they want you to just use umu now, anyway. It would also break native games when not using the Steam runtime, but native games usually don't work outside the Steam runtime, anyway. | 20:20:09 |
| K900 | I'm kinda hoping to get rid of fhsenvs around Proton stuff entirely at some point | 20:20:29 |
| K900 | Though I'm not sure how viable that is | 20:20:53 |
| aidalgol | Build Proton from source? | 20:27:26 |
| K900 | Won't help all the janky launchers downloading 30 Proton versions | 20:30:47 |
| K900 | But if Proton starts shipping a static pressure-vessel runner | 20:30:47 |
| K900 | That then bootstraps into a p-v environment | 20:30:57 |
| K900 | We could possibly work with just environment variables | 20:31:09 |
| K900 | Since we'll just need to tell it where to find EGL and Vulkan drivers | 20:31:27 |
| aidalgol | If I had more spare time, I'd seriously consider writing a launcher just for NixOS. :P | 21:10:49 |
| aidalgol | I wonder if getting rid of the heroic wrapper would solve the mysterious issue with dual-GPU systems. One such report: https://www.answeroverflow.com/m/1391455210634739843 | 21:15:40 |
| aidalgol | I'm starting to think heroic should be dropped from nixpkgs with a throw alias that tells users to install it from flatpak or use the appimage, because it's just a never-ending series of issues. Or maybe I should rewrite the derivation to just extract the official appimage. | 21:17:17 |
| aidalgol | Redacted or Malformed Event | 21:18:29 |
 Charles | oof | 21:20:05 |
| 12 Jul 2025 |
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 Marie | re: half-life: alyx
I couldn't get ALVR to not look like shit, so I'm playing it on Windows now :/ | 13:12:43 |
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| 13 Jul 2025 |
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 RoGreat | Have a PR that uses UMU Launcher that is waiting to be merged: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/402220 | 05:12:53 |
 woobilicious | Is Valve planning this? or do you think they would be perceptive to the idea? | 05:55:31 |
| K900 | Actually they can't lolsob | 06:37:38 |
| K900 | Because they have to load ambient libraries to even set up the container | 06:37:48 |
| woobilicious | I guess just need a custom loader? lol | 06:43:33 |
| K900 | "Just" | 06:47:52 |
| K900 | Just ABI match libc what could possibly go wrong | 06:48:18 |
