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@k900:0upti.meK900 Interesting 14:13:29
@k900:0upti.meK900 Very interestinf 14:13:49
@k900:0upti.meK900 * Very interesting 14:13:54
@k900:0upti.meK900 ls /dev/dri/*? 14:14:39
@niklaskorz:matrix.orgniklaskorz
❯ ls /dev/dri/*
/dev/dri/card0

/dev/dri/by-path:
pci-0000:01:00.0-platform-simple-framebuffer.0-card

14:15:50
@niklaskorz:matrix.orgniklaskorzvulkaninfo shows llvmpipe as GPU id 1 and nvidia as GPU id 014:16:30
@niklaskorz:matrix.orgniklaskorzhm but also vulkaninfo prints this warning:14:17:44
@niklaskorz:matrix.orgniklaskorz
WARNING: [Loader Message] Code 0 : Path to given binary /nix/store/ymzqq38wncg2c0b1qjxhf646xd61i1pw-nvidia-x11-580.119.02-6.18/lib/libGLX_nvidia.so.580.119.02 was found to differ from OS loaded path /nix/store/ymzqq38wncg2c0b1qjxhf646xd61i1pw-nvidia-x11-580.119.02-6.18/lib/libGLX_nvidia.so.0
14:17:50
@k900:0upti.meK900 That's fine 14:27:06
@niklaskorz:matrix.orgniklaskorz

kwin6 logs:

Dez 14 15:04:58 nk-desktop kwin_wayland[2787]: No backend specified, automatically choosing drm
Dez 14 15:04:58 nk-desktop kwin_wayland[2787]: Could not find edid for connector DrmConnector(id=37, gpu="/dev/dri/card0", name="Unknown-1", connection="Connected", countMode=1)
Dez 14 15:04:58 nk-desktop kwin_wayland[2787]: Failed to open drm node: ""
Dez 14 15:04:58 nk-desktop kwin_wayland[2787]: couldn't find dev node for drm device 
Dez 14 15:04:58 nk-desktop kwin_wayland[2787]: No render nodes have been found, falling back to primary node
14:27:08
@k900:0upti.meK900 I wonder if the race is just the Nvidia driver not loading in time 14:27:29
@k900:0upti.meK900 So it's picking up the simplefb device 14:27:29
@k900:0upti.meK900 Because if that's the case, removing Mesa won't help 14:27:56
@niklaskorz:matrix.orgniklaskorzin that case I should not get anything to render at all though, right?14:34:28
@niklaskorz:matrix.orgniklaskorzwhen mesa is disabled, that is14:34:37
@k900:0upti.meK900 There's an even softwarer fallback, technically 14:35:05
@niklaskorz:matrix.orgniklaskorzI'll boot into the generation that removes mesa from graphics.package to see what those logs say14:35:24
@k900:0upti.meK900 But it might also crash and just keep restart looping until the Nvidia device shows up 14:35:35
@niklaskorz:matrix.orgniklaskorzon a successful boot, it looks like this:14:41:46
@niklaskorz:matrix.orgniklaskorz
❯ ls /dev/dri/*
/dev/dri/card1  /dev/dri/renderD128

/dev/dri/by-path:
pci-0000:01:00.0-card  pci-0000:01:00.0-render
14:41:50
@niklaskorz:matrix.orgniklaskorzWhich makes me wonder if that card0 is the ryzen integrated graphics after all14:44:31
@k900:0upti.meK900No, it's simpledrm14:45:36
@k900:0upti.meK900Which is a placeholder not real driver14:45:41
@k900:0upti.meK900That runs on top of your EFI framebuffer14:45:47
@k900:0upti.meK900 And yeah this is definitely not affected by Mesa 14:45:57
@k900:0upti.meK900So my guess is that it's actually just racing, but not where you think it is14:46:13
@k900:0upti.meK900Maybe try early loading nvidia-drm14:51:42
@niklaskorz:matrix.orgniklaskorzout of interest... what would be the place to look up the timing of the nvidia driver being loaded?14:53:54
@niklaskorz:matrix.orgniklaskorzto compare it against the kwin logs14:54:03

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