| 13 Apr 2025 |
 niklaskorz | Ok so I'm not imagining things and they might indeed be blocking the netcup subnet? 🫠 | 17:34:25 |
 Marie | It might be a rate limit thing, I'm not sure | 17:34:44 |
| 14 Apr 2025 |
|  @fxomt:tchncs.de left the room. | 00:59:49 |
 ElvishJerricco | K900: This is like the 5th time I've explained the new libgbm / mesa thing and the incompatibility between 24.11 and unstable and the improved compatibility we'll have in 25.05 and onward: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/adding-mesa-from-nixpkgs-unstable-to-a-stable-flake-config/63025/2 | 06:46:35 |
| ElvishJerricco | 5th time on discourse that is | 06:46:51 |
| ElvishJerricco | I'm wondering if we need a good changelog and/or nixos manual entry about it | 06:47:02 |
 K900 | Should I just write a release note for it or something? | 06:47:02 |
| ElvishJerricco | also should hardware.graphics.package(32) still be hidden since the change? | 06:47:24 |
| K900 | Technically no | 06:48:47 |
| K900 | I was kinda hoping to go refactor that mess | 06:49:03 |
| K900 | But I guess we can unhide it for now | 06:49:14 |
| ElvishJerricco | Yea, I think a release note explaining what happened and what it means going forward, along with unhiding that option, would go a long way to explaining all of this to folks | 06:50:22 |
| K900 | The packaging of Mesa graphics drivers has been significantly reworked, in particular:
applications linked against different Mesa versions than installed on the system should now work correctly going forward (however, applications linked against older Mesa, e.g. from older Nixpkgs releases, remain broken) the global Mesa version can now be managed without a mass rebuild by setting hardware.graphics.package packages that used to depend on Mesa for libgbm or libdri should use libgbm or dri-pkgconfig-stub as inputs, respectively
| 07:51:49 |
| K900 | Something like this? @ElvishJerricco | 07:51:56 |
| ElvishJerricco | That seems pretty good yea | 07:52:50 |
| ElvishJerricco |
(however, applications linked against older Mesa, e.g. from older Nixpkgs releases, remain broken)
Well, this might need a slight reword
| 07:53:34 |
| ElvishJerricco | just to clarify that you mean "older than this new release" rather than "older than what the application is using" | 07:53:52 |
| K900 | Changed to "from Nixpkgs releases before 25.05" | 07:55:32 |
| ElvishJerricco | Yea that's probably good | 07:56:08 |
| niklaskorz | In reply to @niklaskorz:matrix.org
It used to work when I pass authentication along when I first started getting error 0x2 on anonymous downloads, but now it's the same for authenticated downloads Hm looks like it might be a DNS issue, gonna try a different DNS provider | 07:56:12 |
| niklaskorz | Indeed that was it, had it set to 1.1.1.1 but using the data center's nameserver makes it work 😵 | 08:14:45 |
| 15 Apr 2025 |
 Assistant | Should gamescope session be working on 24.11 with nvidia prime?
When I try it it just crashes immediately, running it on a tty gives me this which I think is the same output but it goes away too fast to be sure: https://pastebin.com/raw/KmWqtjjF
It works when forcing it to use the intel igpu instead, and gamescope works nested with either, but I can't get it to work standalone with the dgpu | 01:12:46 |
| K900 | In reply to @assistant:pygmalion.chat
Should gamescope session be working on 24.11 with nvidia prime?
When I try it it just crashes immediately, running it on a tty gives me this which I think is the same output but it goes away too fast to be sure: https://pastebin.com/raw/KmWqtjjF
It works when forcing it to use the intel igpu instead, and gamescope works nested with either, but I can't get it to work standalone with the dgpu I would be very surprised if it did | 03:42:50 |
| Assistant | That's a shame, but I guess I can stop wasting my time trying to get it to work | 05:00:02 |
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| 16 Apr 2025 |
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 srestegosaurio (on tchncs.de) | I think I've tried once to run the session and it just hanged there.
| 13:00:09 |
| srestegosaurio (on tchncs.de) | Btw: has anyone had any issues with CK3 recently? It used to work just fine both native and proton but now it doesn't.
| 13:01:01 |
| srestegosaurio (on tchncs.de) | Native insta crashes and proton, while providing a working launcher, just displays a black game screen.
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