| 10 Jan 2026 |
 K900 | I remember seeing some opposite results | 08:12:47 |
 SigmaSquadron | I remember ars technica doing a few articles about denuvo | 08:12:55 |
| SigmaSquadron | Okay it looks like most news outlets are reporting on one youtube video that conducted some testing on denuvo | 08:14:51 |
| SigmaSquadron | and there's one japanese video game producer that blamed denuvo for framerate issues on his game | 08:15:16 |
| SigmaSquadron | And there was one game that was misusing denuvo's API and their mistake caused denuvo to perform terribly | 08:16:08 |
| SigmaSquadron | seems like the evidence is inconclusive at best | 08:16:26 |
 magic_rb | From what i know, if you hold denuvo wrong and ask it to perform integrity checks 40 times a frame itll perform terribly. If you use it the way you're supposed to, it doesnt have any real performance impact. | 08:17:51 |
| magic_rb | (This is coming from someone who'd prefer if DRM was illegal) | 08:18:07 |
| SigmaSquadron | * | 08:18:23 |
| SigmaSquadron | Yeah, this seems to be accurate. There aren't enough tests to measure a performance downgrade accurately. | 08:19:13 |
| SigmaSquadron | * | 08:19:21 |
| SigmaSquadron | Denuvo is still very bad, of course. In 2021 they forgot to renew their domain name which caused every denuvo game to fail to launch. | 08:20:53 |
| SigmaSquadron | at least Manjaro Linux has them beat in that regard, given they forgot to renew their SSL twice, not once. | 08:21:25 |
| magic_rb | I hate denuvo just as much the next guy, but lying about it helps no one | 08:30:49 |
 woobilicious | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_jyCBu0nUA | 08:31:00 |
| woobilicious | This has some interesting details about the version shipped with F1 2016 | 08:31:43 |
| SigmaSquadron | I'm not lying? https://www.pcmag.com/news/denuvo-drm-to-blame-for-games-becoming-temporarily-unplayable | 08:31:48 |
| magic_rb | Im not saying you are | 08:32:23 |
| magic_rb | Im saying in general :P | 08:32:27 |
| magic_rb | Sorry | 08:32:29 |
| SigmaSquadron | oh okay, sorry! context is hard to read in text | 08:32:44 |
| woobilicious | dang it guys, you're meant to argue and constantly misinterpret each other | 08:36:18 |
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 Marie | did anyone get the hytale launcher flatpak to run? it just crashes for me on start | 20:47:05 |
| Marie | so called distro independent packaging | 20:47:24 |
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