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| mnaser | I'm struggling to understand why the following package did not get bumped:
https://nixpkgs-update-logs.nix-community.org/python312Packages.python-aodhclient/2025-04-30.log
In my case here, there is no updateScript as it claims to say there is one:
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/development/python-modules/python-aodhclient/default.nix
Also, there is totally a newer tag (for quite sometime):
https://github.com/openstack/python-aodhclient/tags
Does the buildPythonApplication come with its own updater? | 21:44:11 |
| mnaser | Sorry, future lore for those who want to figure it out:
nix-update python3Packages.python-aodhclient
It shows that somehow the next version from 3.6.0 is yoga-eol (openstack tags repos with a eol tag) and I assume it things that's the latest :) | 21:48:01 |
| 2 May 2025 |
 Sandro 🐧 | buildPythonPackage has a default update script | 01:55:18 |
| Sandro 🐧 | yeah, that is probably also a mirror | 02:13:23 |
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| 13 May 2025 |
 Perchun Pak [don't ping; dm instead] | How do I point out that derivation itself is a source?
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/development/libraries/astal/source.nix
https://nixpkgs-update-logs.nix-community.org/astal.source/2025-05-13.log | 12:22:51 |
 FliegendeWurst (@GPN23) | passthru.src = final; maybe | 13:53:40 |
| FliegendeWurst (@GPN23) | though the setup seems a bit odd to me anyway | 13:53:53 |
| FliegendeWurst (@GPN23) | why not just have the updateScript in one of the normal packages? | 13:54:34 |
| 14 May 2025 |
| Perchun Pak [don't ping; dm instead] | In reply to @fliegendewurst:matrix.org
why not just have the updateScript in one of the normal packages? So update bot would have a better name for PR | 11:38:55 |
| 18 May 2025 |
 Grimmauld (any/all) | Okay, i give up-
Following package:
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/by-name/sd/SDL_ttf/package.nix
We currently set the version "2.0.11.1-unstable-2024-04-23.
Upstream only has a tag for 2.0.11. They won't be tagging any more old versions for SDL_ttf for SDL1. But, canonically, we are on 2.0.11.1: https://github.com/libsdl-org/SDL_ttf/commit/e31d11a692e5b55e8e624ad766e4e44d655422c8
Currently, running the update script on SDL_ttf just crashes, because the 2.0.11.1 tag does not exist. But removing the .1 isn't entirely correct either. What is the best way to make the update script succeed and still correctly represent the version? | 21:17:46 |
| FliegendeWurst (@GPN23) | Removing the ".1" seems correct to me, we use the last released version in the unstable naming scheme. | 21:21:51 |
| FliegendeWurst (@GPN23) | And 2.0.11 is the last released version | 21:21:58 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | pbsds said 2.0.11.1 was the actual version, but dropping the .1 would have been my solution too. It is common for release notes entries to be prepared before the tag (and edited later!). And https://repology.org/docs/requirements also explicitly says to do -post of tagged too:
Obviously, no fake versions, e.g. versions which were not officially released by upstream. Note that a mere mention of "next" version by upstream (in changelog or build system script) does not make it official. A git tag or a release announcement does.
| 21:23:36 |
 pbsds | just checked with repology, no one else cares about the .1 | 21:24:03 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | As in:
- we can do whatever
- we should keep it
- we should drop it
- not required
- ???
| 21:25:29 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | if we can drop the .1 then thats almost certainly the simplest and what i'd want to do | 21:25:54 |
| pbsds | i am agreeable to drop it | 21:26:06 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | do they have a matrix/irc? | 21:26:58 |
| pbsds | https://repology.org/project/sdl-ttf/versions | 21:27:33 |
| pbsds | oh wait there are two distros | 21:28:05 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | oh, that - yeah they mostly just set that ignored on nixpkgs becasue -unstable, not because .1. And they do not like the .1, or else it'd be green | 21:28:59 |
| pbsds | guix also has the .1 | 21:29:50 |
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