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25 Mar 2026
Randy Eckenrode	Seeing how well Swift Build can replace xcbuild is a post-Swift activity. It would be done as a replacement hook for `xcbuildHook` rather than as a replacement `xcodebuild` itself.	12:46:32
Randy Eckenrode	I am staying out of the reviews of those other tools because I have no enthusiasm for vibe-coded applications. Someone else can review those.	12:49:27
Randy Eckenrode	I would rather fork xcbuild just for `xcrun` (or create a separate derivation that builds only that) than wholesale replace it since what we have basically works. Where it has problems are due to patches we apply. Those should be adjusted to work better for mixed workflows.	12:50:03
viraptor	That's great to know. I haven't looked into / had direct experience with xcrun yet, so that's good news. It does seem like a very limited scope with not much that can go wrong.	12:55:59
viraptor	I'll continue with the tools created so far. After that gets integrated, xcbuild usage indeed should be limited to only things that already work well.	13:02:21
nasso	anyone here knows how to pin a cask when using brew-nix? i use it to install bitwig studio (a DAW) but my license only covers up to bitwig 5, and the cask has been updated to bitwig 6 i bisected the repository containing the casks and found the last commit where it was still bitwig 5 but im not sure where to go from there brew-nix gives you a nix-darwin module that just provides an overlay that adds `nixpkgs.brewCasks`. however, i would still like other casks to update, so i cant just use the pinned module/overlay!	16:37:37
nasso	is it possible to override the module/overlay somehow to rename `brewCasks` to something like `brewCasksBitwig5`?? or could i somehow skip the module/overlay? i tried to but when applying the config it gets stuck at "installing_mac" or something	16:39:40
emily	looks like it also exposes a `packages` output	17:20:34
emily	so you can pick that one package out of there	17:20:37
nasso	ah yes i tried that wait cuz im back on my laptop now	17:20:53
emily	(tbh, the overlay doesn't even overlay on top of `pkgs` properly so I'd just use the `packages` output in general 😅)	17:21:00
nasso	in my `home.packages` i tried to add `inputs.brew-nix-bitwig5.packages.aarch64-darwin.bitwig-studio` but when i try to `darwin-rebuild`, it gets stuck like that: building the system configuration... warning: Git tree '/private/etc/nix-darwin' has uncommitted changes warning: Using 'builtins.derivation' to create a derivation named 'options.json' that references the store path '/nix/store/ds2x1l37fidk2b65c4cwg77vp976fbd4-source' without a proper context. The resulting derivation will not have a correct store reference, so this is unreliable and may stop working in the future. warning: Using 'builtins.derivation' to create a derivation named 'options.json' that references the store path '/nix/store/ds2x1l37fidk2b65c4cwg77vp976fbd4-source' without a proper context. The resulting derivation will not have a correct store reference, so this is unreliable and may stop working in the future. [1/0/13 built, 0.0 KiB DL] building installer_mac: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0	17:24:15
nasso	(i think the warnings can be ignored cuz i always got the same before)	17:24:37
emily	looks like it's just downloading	17:24:39
emily	(slowly, probably)	17:24:43
emily	you can pass `-L` to see the full output	17:24:54
nasso	oh let me try	17:25:02
nasso	oh wait, with `-L` i can see the URL	17:26:06
nasso	what if bitwig is just evil and the servers just don't serve	17:26:28
nasso	okay yeah looks like its just slow as shit, but the URL itself works when i try to download from the web browser so	17:27:26
nasso	installer_mac> installer_mac> trying https://www.bitwig.com/dl/Bitwig%20Studio/5.3.13/installer_mac installer_mac> % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current installer_mac> Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed installer_mac> 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 installer_mac> 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 installer_mac> 27 490.3M 27 136.3M 0 0 3.65M 0 02:14 00:37 01:37 266.1k installer_mac> curl: (56) Recv failure: Connection reset by peer installer_mac> Warning: Problem (retrying all errors). Will retry in 1 second. 3 retries left. installer_mac> 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 installer_mac> 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 installer_mac> 39 350.2M 39 139.7M 0 0 2.32M 0 02:30 01:00 01:30 128.7k installer_mac> curl: (56) Recv failure: Connection reset by peer installer_mac> Warning: Problem (retrying all errors). Will retry in 2 seconds. 2 retries installer_mac> Warning: left. installer_mac> 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 installer_mac> 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 looks like its simply telling me to get a better connection	17:28:09
nasso	IT WORKED I THINK	17:28:34
emily	they want you to upgrade :)	17:29:06
nasso	hell yeah it did thanks! i thought i did something wrong but it turns out i only really tried on shitty wifis (hotel and now train)	17:29:22
nasso	lk scared of keeping the bitwig dot com url i dont trust them keeping it up	17:30:19
nasso	but yeha okay thank you emily once again	17:30:21
nasso	ill get rid of the brew-nix overlay lmao	17:30:31
nasso	yeah okay this clears up some things for me cuz i see a lot of projects use overlay when i feel like they shouldn't (e.g. here they're using an overlay to add something to nixpkgs, but they aren't modifying anything in nixpkgs, so like, whats the point)	17:37:17
nasso	* yeah okay this clears up some things for me cuz i see a lot of projects use overlays when i feel like they shouldn't (e.g. here they're using an overlay to add something to nixpkgs, but they aren't modifying anything in nixpkgs, so like, whats the point)	17:37:26
emily	could override it with a web.archive.org link	17:47:00

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