| 2 Nov 2025 |
 Randy Eckenrode | There are also some games and emulators. | 03:21:54 |
| Randy Eckenrode | VkQuake was pretty broken on recent MoltenVK IIRC. | 03:22:11 |
 emily | wouldn't call vkquake big :D | 03:22:39 |
| emily | but Wine yes | 03:22:40 |
| Randy Eckenrode | https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/blob/2f6b4803abe6d2d76b474d46670d68849cbfd21f/docs/features.txt | 03:23:43 |
| Randy Eckenrode | kk is Kosmickrisp. | 03:23:54 |
| Randy Eckenrode | Doesn’t appear they support vkCreateMetalSurfaceEXT, which mpv needs. | 03:27:19 |
| emily | I think that's part of the "Metal WSI" | 03:46:49 |
| emily | hm I guess this is a general overview though | 03:47:03 |
| emily | but it doesn't seem complete. if you search vkCreateMetalSurfaceEXT it's there. | 03:47:18 |
| emily | hmm… | 03:47:31 |
| emily | but only in headers. | 03:47:33 |
| emily | so I guess yeah maybe no luck. | 03:47:39 |
| emily | they do have CAMetalLayer though. | 03:48:00 |
| emily | well, rather, all the stuff around it. | 03:48:22 |
| emily | I dunno. it is confusing. I don't understand Vulkan. | 03:48:57 |
| emily | AIUI they do definitely implement VK_EXT_metal_surface, which vkCreateMetalSurfaceEXT is part of. | 03:49:46 |
| emily | but I have no idea where it's implemented/wired up. | 03:49:49 |
| emily | or actually maybe they don't implement that? | 03:50:28 |
| emily | probably someone should just try it. | 03:50:33 |
| emily | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/457703 __CF_USER_TEXT_ENCODING came up here recently right? | 03:52:51 |
 samasaur | huh, just tested with coreutils env from macports and I can reproduce that behavior on v9.5 | 04:18:22 |
| emily | right | 04:22:44 |
| emily | because nobody else but us passes --disable-nls it seems | 04:22:50 |
| emily | could you comment on the PR? | 04:23:17 |
| emily | (to report the data) | 04:23:22 |
|  Steve joined the room. | 09:10:34 |
| Randy Eckenrode | Maybe an artifact of our historic CF situation? | 11:06:25 |
| emily | I expect so yes | 11:08:42 |
| emily | it is a bit crap that env injects a variable like that but avoiding that variable seems like a fools errand | 11:09:18 |
