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1 Nov 2025
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrode

Decisions about how components of the Swift toolchain itself are built and distributed fall outside the workgroup’s charter.

00:22:11
@samasaur:matrix.orgsamasaurhmm00:22:47
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeIt seems like this is about build system integration and how to help them with things like dependency resolution?00:23:07
@samasaur:matrix.orgsamasaurso (if helpful at all) would be more helpful for your swift package set work, perhaps?00:23:24
@samasaur:matrix.orgsamasauri wonder if there is a working group for packaging the toolchain itself00:23:37
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeMaybe, but the way Nix does things is an impediment.00:29:09
@saiko:knifepoint.netKatalin 🔪

Encourage development of Swift integrations in existing build and packaging systems that are outside of the Swift project (e.g. CMake, Bazel)

this is really cool to see :^)

00:30:54
@saiko:knifepoint.netKatalin 🔪 especially since I'm working on making Swift support in Meson better 00:32:08
@saiko:knifepoint.netKatalin 🔪 but also just in general 00:32:15
@niklaskorz:matrix.orgniklaskorzso I'm still not sure if that either just doesn't work or I'm looking in the wrong place09:51:43
@niklaskorz:matrix.orgniklaskorz
diff --git a/pkgs/stdenv/cross/default.nix b/pkgs/stdenv/cross/default.nix
index cc53957eee0d..15f76c9fbe53 100644
--- a/pkgs/stdenv/cross/default.nix
+++ b/pkgs/stdenv/cross/default.nix
@@ -69,6 +69,7 @@ lib.init bootStages
           extraNativeBuildInputs =
             old.extraNativeBuildInputs
             ++ lib.optionals (hostPlatform.isLinux && !buildPlatform.isLinux) [ buildPackages.patchelf ]
+            ++ lib.optionals (buildPlatform.isDarwin && !hostPlatform.isDarwin) [ buildPackages.apple-sdk ]
             ++ lib.optional (
               let
                 f =
09:51:52
@niklaskorz:matrix.orgniklaskorzthis doesn't fix the build issue unfortunately, same result as before09:52:04
@niklaskorz:matrix.orgniklaskorzalso there generally is no way to pass RUSTFLAGS to the build script compilation it seems10:06:52
@niklaskorz:matrix.orgniklaskorza PR in 2017 was rejected: https://github.com/rust-lang/cargo/pull/442810:07:00
@niklaskorz:matrix.orgniklaskorz

The flag is not passed to all compiler instances: When cross-compiling (i.e., when --target is set), the flag is not passed to build scripts. It seems there is currently no way to pass anything to build scripts when --target is set, which clearly is a feature gap.

10:07:27
@niklaskorz:matrix.orgniklaskorzupstream issue: https://github.com/rust-lang/cargo/issues/442310:08:15

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