| 25 May 2021 |
 toonn | No, just saying a GCC-related bug that has already been fixed is the only relevant thing I've come across : ) | 17:30:14 |
| toonn | A veritable dearth of information if I've ever seen one. | 17:30:27 |
 LnL | can you post the actual traceback somewhere | 17:35:59 |
| toonn | LnL: Added nix-store --read-log to the gist. | 17:43:51 |
| LnL | did any of that change compared to the current Libsystem? | 17:49:33 |
| LnL | hmm wait, Libsystem-1238.60.2 is the current version | 17:50:22 |
| toonn | Yeah, haven't updated Libsystem yet. Only XNU. | 18:03:41 |
| LnL | hmm right, the actual source of the header is xnu itself | 18:09:54 |
| LnL | there is a diff between the current version and 10.13 however | 18:11:17 |
| LnL | the /nix/store/jhcpg6l57syfnyqbk3bc1zg1vjwksshx-Libsystem-1238.60.2 is headers from bootstrap tools right? | 18:12:36 |
| LnL | * the /nix/store/jhcpg6l57syfnyqbk3bc1zg1vjwksshx-Libsystem-1238.60.2 is using headers from bootstrap tools right? | 18:12:56 |
| toonn | I think so, yes. | 18:15:45 |
| toonn | You think updating the Libsystem in bootstrap-tools is the fix? | 18:17:33 |
| LnL | not sure, but trying a build with a hacked up Libsystem which has the new include/sys/syslog.h is definitively something to try | 18:19:54 |
| LnL | if you drill down to the correct stdenv.__bootPackages... attribute you can .override it | 18:21:42 |
| LnL | or put some temporary stuff in the appropriate bootstrap stage | 18:22:18 |
| 26 May 2021 |
 emily | grahamc (he/him): unfortunately it seems like the Matrix bridge also doesn't expose the kick message, heh | 01:18:17 |
 @grahamc:nixos.org | ack... | 01:36:00 |
 Mic92 | This looks very complicated: https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-org-configurations/blob/90974ccc0ef4a688cc92046d6b4047c426246eec/macs/notes.md | 03:25:29 |
| Mic92 | Is this why our previous chair needed so many admins to maintain the macOS installation? | 03:25:53 |
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| jeffbr13 set a profile picture. | 07:54:55 |
 Domen Kožar | Mic92: I wonder what it saves, looking at the instructions setting up VM is more work that setting up the guest, but then it's not clear what's the motivation | 11:11:04 |
| Mic92 | In reply to @domenkozar:matrix.org
Mic92: I wonder what it saves, looking at the instructions setting up VM is more work that setting up the guest, but then it's not clear what's the motivation The VM version might be easier to update if you have multiple hosts? | 11:12:02 |
| Domen Kožar | maybe because we neede to run older macOS version or something completely different like the flexibility to make snapshots and have greater margin for errors | 11:12:03 |
| Domen Kožar | or both :) | 11:12:13 |
| Mic92 | This still feels a bit backward. What do professional do that maintain a larger cluster of macOS workstations? | 11:13:51 |
| Domen Kožar | they pay lots of money for others to do it | 11:18:13 |
| Domen Kožar | that's why macOS hosting is so expensive | 11:18:21 |
