| 21 Nov 2025 |
 Randy Eckenrode | Looking at a diff between MoltenVK and KosmicKrisp, MoltenVK supports more extensions. Where their feature sets align, KosmicKrisp usually has higher limits. | 01:55:55 |
| Randy Eckenrode | For the things they both support, KosmicKrisp is presumably more conformant. | 01:56:43 |
| Randy Eckenrode | I’m currently waiting on vkquake to build to see if it works. | 01:56:53 |
| Randy Eckenrode | 
Download VKQuake - KosmicKrisp.png | 02:46:33 |
| Randy Eckenrode | 
Download vulkan-caps-viewer.png | 02:48:03 |
| Randy Eckenrode | For VkQuake, I had to disable its checks for MoltenVK. | 02:48:45 |
| Randy Eckenrode | For vulkan-caps-viewer, I had to fix the derivation on Darwin, which I’ll be submitting shortly. | 02:49:03 |
 validitymaiden | Thanks for the feedback; that helps a lot :) | 02:49:27 |
| Randy Eckenrode | https://gist.github.com/reckenrode/94666977418beef5aec79d1b1e977e64 | 03:07:54 |
| Randy Eckenrode | Patch to build KosmicKrisp in Mesa. The commit is HEAD as of a few minutes ago. Picked because that’s what it was. | 03:08:15 |
| Randy Eckenrode | $ otool -L result/lib/libvulkan_kosmickrisp.dylib
result/lib/libvulkan_kosmickrisp.dylib:
/nix/store/9nis19ya24mhzb5j9ykdcrf96p6z5qdb-mesa-25.3.0-unstable-2025-11-20/lib/libvulkan_kosmickrisp.dylib (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1356.0.0)
/nix/store/vxg3p6z49h881sk5q6qa86pjlj4r123d-libxcb-1.17.0/lib/libxcb.1.dylib (compatibility version 3.0.0, current version 3.0.0)
/nix/store/89ck3bns3nfl0r40i4g891nv57jdd7l7-libx11-1.8.12/lib/libX11-xcb.1.dylib (compatibility version 2.0.0, current version 2.0.0)
/nix/store/vxg3p6z49h881sk5q6qa86pjlj4r123d-libxcb-1.17.0/lib/libxcb-xfixes.0.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1.0.0)
/nix/store/vxg3p6z49h881sk5q6qa86pjlj4r123d-libxcb-1.17.0/lib/libxcb-randr.0.dylib (compatibility version 2.0.0, current version 2.0.0)
/System/Library/Frameworks/Metal.framework/Versions/A/Metal (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 370.63.1)
/usr/lib/libc++.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1900.180.0)
/usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 228.0.0)
| 03:13:24 |
| Randy Eckenrode | How does Vulkan work with X11? | 03:15:01 |
 K900 | I don't think it does on macOS+ | 08:22:57 |
| K900 | * I don't think it does on macOS? | 08:23:02 |
 niklaskorz | I was about to say "I'm surprised XQuartz is still maintained" but I guess it isn't really | 10:58:45 |
| niklaskorz | https://github.com/XQuartz/XQuartz/issues/282 | 11:00:44 |
| niklaskorz | so not possible | 11:01:03 |
| K900 | I mean | 11:03:06 |
| K900 | Why the fuck would you want X11 and Vulkan on OSX | 11:03:13 |
| K900 | Objectively | 11:03:16 |
| K900 | I'm pretty sure OSX deprecated X11 before Vulkan was even a thing | 11:03:52 |
| niklaskorz | very weird ports would be the only thing I could come up with | 11:04:09 |
| niklaskorz | * very weird ports of Linux applications would be the only thing I could come up with | 11:04:15 |
| niklaskorz | at this point can we just have Wayquartz? | 11:04:33 |
| niklaskorz | (is this a thing?) | 11:04:42 |
 Alyssa Ross | https://github.com/owl-compositor/owl | 11:05:01 |
| niklaskorz | hah neat | 11:05:49 |
| niklaskorz | oh this one is actively maintained even: https://github.com/aspauldingcode/Wawona | 11:06:39 |
| niklaskorz | wait it's just two commits and the first one is three days old | 11:07:57 |
 niko ⚡️ | It actually works too, I managed to run wayland hello from nixpkgs on my mac using it | 11:09:24 |
