| 2 Jul 2025 |
 emily | because the accessibility options have grown a suspicious number of settings that fix some of the anti-usability visual design changes but make it look worse | 21:24:50 |
 Randy Eckenrode | In reply to @zhaofeng:zhaofeng.li
well, let us know how it goes. I have just a separate case-sensitive container mounted at ~/Git I have been using a case-sensitive store for a while. It’s been mostly fine, but I had to fix Meson (or its tests) a couple of times. | 21:28:49 |
 Zhaofeng Li | what I'm most worried about is the GUI apps misbehaving | 21:31:12 |
| Randy Eckenrode | They get copied put of the store due to the nix-darwin and Home Manager module I’m using (so they show up in Spotlight). | 21:32:56 |
| Zhaofeng Li | oh I mean the whole system installed on case-sensitive APFS | 21:34:05 |
| Randy Eckenrode | Will the installer even let you do that? | 21:34:42 |
 Katalin 🔪 | yes | 21:34:46 |
| Katalin 🔪 | I really should set up time machine backups for when messing around with this stuff. but it only wants to work over SMB (eww) instead of NFS | 21:39:42 |
| emily | it's been possible for >a decade now | 21:51:20 |
| emily | IIRC the main problem historically was Adobe apps | 21:51:28 |
| emily | I bet Adobe apps are still a problem | 21:51:33 |
| Katalin 🔪 | windows port moment | 21:51:57 |
| emily | Photoshop started on the Macintosh! | 21:52:28 |
| Katalin 🔪 | oh huh, really? | 21:52:40 |
| Katalin 🔪 | didn’t know that! | 21:52:53 |
| Zhaofeng Li | yup, and I really hate adobe apps :/ they behave like malware and spew stuff everywhere in the filesystem | 21:53:38 |
| Zhaofeng Li | even if you skip the installer and extract the .app inside, it still insist on installing LaunchAgents and other crap | 21:54:18 |
| Zhaofeng Li | wrote a endpointsecurity daemon to help with reversing a while ago, was tempted to use it as a sandbox to have Adobe apps behave too | 21:55:38 |
| Zhaofeng Li | * wrote a endpointsecurity daemon to help with reversing a while ago, was tempted to use it as a sandbox to make Adobe apps behave too | 21:56:07 |
| Zhaofeng Li | ... which, by the way, is also part of the reason why homebrew is valuable - the package set also has knowledge of what kind of crap apps put in the filesystem: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-cask/blob/d03e3486d8425f00dec126c8a0a6745a4c476454/Casks/a/adobe-acrobat-reader.rb#L21-L52 | 22:00:42 |
| Zhaofeng Li | I'm pretty sure it's incomplete, but at least people are trying | 22:00:58 |
| Zhaofeng Li |
Software Update Available (1)
Me: gets excited
(2 seconds later) never mind, it's a Safari Technology Preview update
| 22:10:35 |
 niklaskorz | I wonder why Safari Technology Preview can't just be distributed through test flight | 22:22:12 |
| niklaskorz | It's not like it can be used in webviews like the normal system webkit | 22:22:47 |
| Zhaofeng Li | good point, not really sure 🤷♂️ the initial installation is done through a .pkg too | 22:28:54 |
| Zhaofeng Li | but AFAICT all it does is install some launchagents globally | 22:29:10 |
| Zhaofeng Li | so could be done through SMAppService too | 22:29:31 |
 JD | Redacted or Malformed Event | 23:20:40 |
| JD | Curious why you'd want to install on case sensitive APFS? | 23:21:43 |
| Katalin 🔪 | because case-insensitivity is stupid | 23:22:17 |
