| 10 Jun 2021 |
 Domen Kožar | so you can have pure stdenv, but not really pure builds | 09:01:06 |
| Domen Kožar | (in theory) | 09:01:11 |
 Alyssa Ross | you could have pure builds of very simple programs | 09:01:37 |
| Alyssa Ross | at least | 09:01:53 |
| Domen Kožar | yeah that's really neat :) | 09:13:32 |
 smittie | Redacted or Malformed Event | 10:40:22 |
| smittie | * Hey there, nix doctor warned me about multiple nix versions. As I didn't find any proper result online I just trashed one of the nix-bins.
Nix still works, as far as I can tell, but nix doctor now gives me error: getting status of '/nix/store/5r1n292czy9x0wm5n4nrrp4xx199zggv-nix-2.3.11': No such file or directory . I'm not sure how to further approach this. This error corresponds to the one of the two links I deleted. 🤔 | 10:40:48 |
| smittie | * Hey there, nix doctor warned me about multiple nix versions. As I didn't find any proper result online I just trashed one of the referenced nix-bin-links.
Nix still works, as far as I can tell, but nix doctor now gives me error: getting status of '/nix/store/5r1n292czy9x0wm5n4nrrp4xx199zggv-nix-2.3.11': No such file or directory . I'm not sure how to further approach this. This error corresponds to the one of the two links I deleted. 🤔 | 10:41:29 |
| smittie | * Hey there, nix doctor warned me about multiple nix versions. As I didn't find any proper result online I just trashed one of the referenced nix-bin-links.
Nix still works, as far as I can tell, but nix doctor now gives me error: getting status of '/nix/store/5r1n292czy9x0wm5n4nrrp4xx199zggv-nix-2.3.11': No such file or directory . The message is somehow correct as it corresponds to the link I did delete. I just don't understand how nix or nix doctor still expects to find it on my system. Where else should I look for dangling refs? 🤔 | 10:43:17 |
 emily | the macOS syscall ABI is not stable | 16:39:26 |
| emily | so binaries linked with a nonstandard libSystem will (potentially) be OS-version-specific | 16:39:34 |
| emily | a la BSDs | 16:39:38 |
| emily | that said, I thought that with tbds we could do pure builds already | 16:41:35 |
 LnL | well it's not really pure since we still depend on magic stuff that we can't build ourselves, but it should be pretty isolated | 17:50:39 |
| LnL | the result similar to what we used to do for Libsystem https://daiderd.com/2020/06/25/nix-and-libsystem.html | 17:51:00 |
| 11 Jun 2021 |
| emily | right, I mean, there's still some kind of binary seed / stuff to download, but my understanding was that we should no longer need anything from a running macOS system or anything? | 02:03:13 |
| LnL | well not natively, since Libsystem and friends is needed to actually run stuff | 06:49:12 |
| LnL | I'd consider a pure build something that could run anywhere like puredarwin | 06:50:09 |
 Finn Behrens | Has anybody an idea on how to build this? I did not see it in nixpkgs, and don't want to install brew. I tried make with nix-shell -p pkg-config libxml2 graphviz -I nixpkgs=channel:nixos-unstable. https://github.com/SwiftDocOrg/swift-doc | 10:56:45 |
| 12 Jun 2021 |
| emily | well, it requires swift which we have no darwin package for, so... I'd suggest giving up installing Swift and Xcode or something :) | 00:32:46 |
| emily | * well, it requires swift which we have no darwin package for, so... I'd suggest giving up and installing Swift and Xcode or something :) | 00:33:01 |
 abathur | the swift-corefoundation is a lie! | 01:08:32 |
| abathur | I did find this https://github.com/eqyiel/nixpkgs/pull/3/files | 01:15:27 |
| abathur | this might also be workable under some circumstances? https://github.com/LnL7/dotfiles/blob/45477ad631af2a34c9156977f0e31c5360dc9f3c/nixpkgs/overlays/50-darwin-impure-packages.nix | 01:17:06 |
| Finn Behrens | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
well, it requires swift which we have no darwin package for, so... I'd suggest giving up and installing Swift and Xcode or something :) Swift and Xcode is installed. It complains about graphviz. Which I don’t want to build without nix :-) | 08:29:31 |
| LnL | either it's looking in a specific place for that or the swift compiler can't find it because it's not looking in nix locations unlike our compiler wrappers | 09:06:13 |
 toonn | LnL: I've been keeping an eye on the LLVM bump evaluation and it doesn't seem to be progressing any, mostly looking at the still succeeding figure. | 19:05:45 |
| LnL | yeah it's because of the scheduling shares https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixpkgs/lnl7-wip#tabs-configuration | 19:33:15 |
| LnL | there's a 70k darwin queue so most other things get priority, which is totally reasonable but a bit annoying when waiting for results :D | 19:34:25 |
| toonn | 1 out of 72 million? Ouch >.< | 19:37:48 |
