| 26 May 2021 |
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 Domen Kožar | Mic92: I wonder what it saves, looking at the instructions setting up VM is more work that setting up the guest, but then it's not clear what's the motivation | 11:11:04 |
 Mic92 | In reply to @domenkozar:matrix.org
Mic92: I wonder what it saves, looking at the instructions setting up VM is more work that setting up the guest, but then it's not clear what's the motivation The VM version might be easier to update if you have multiple hosts? | 11:12:02 |
| Domen Kožar | maybe because we neede to run older macOS version or something completely different like the flexibility to make snapshots and have greater margin for errors | 11:12:03 |
| Domen Kožar | or both :) | 11:12:13 |
| Mic92 | This still feels a bit backward. What do professional do that maintain a larger cluster of macOS workstations? | 11:13:51 |
| Domen Kožar | they pay lots of money for others to do it | 11:18:13 |
| Domen Kožar | that's why macOS hosting is so expensive | 11:18:21 |
 toonn | I always assumed it was because of the convenience in getting back to a known good state. | 11:20:27 |
| Domen Kožar | Mic92: I'd imagine all large clusters have home-grown solutions to this | 11:21:21 |
| toonn | Btw, DomenKozar, did my PM ever arrive? | 11:23:17 |
| Domen Kožar | only one line? | 11:23:45 |
| toonn | Yes. | 11:25:32 |
 andi- | Anyone else with an M1 MBP run into recurring kernel crashes when bootstrapping stdenv? | 11:35:34 |
 Finn Behrens | I have a M1 MBP, but never saw a kernel crash yet | 11:36:45 |
| Finn Behrens | Only stuff like java is not working :-) | 11:36:51 |
| andi- | Finn Behrens: mind building the python attribute of https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/124416 then? :D | 11:37:44 |
| Finn Behrens | In reply to @andi:kack.it
Finn Behrens: mind building the python attribute of https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/124416 then? :D will try | 11:38:14 |
| Finn Behrens | should I save everything befor doing that xP | 11:38:25 |
 thefloweringash | andi-: what does your panic log say? | 11:42:05 |
| andi- | thefloweringash: some spinlock stuff, can try to dig it out if that is helpful. Only getting that dialog every 2nd crash | 11:43:17 |
| andi- | I just reproduced it with --cores 1 --max-jobs 1 ... | 11:43:37 |
| andi- | Send you a DM with the report. | 11:45:39 |
| thefloweringash | I got about three of those in a row
panic(cpu 0 caller 0xfffffe00233d71b8): "Spinlock timeout after 12583885 ticks, 0xfffffe002712c588 = fffffe167047d321"
And the crashed process was always “intltest” (or something similar) | 11:45:47 |
| thefloweringash | I hoped it was something odd about my system, and hydra didn’t seem to have a problem. | 11:47:03 |
| andi- | Hydra is running on minis. You are using an MBP? | 11:47:32 |
| thefloweringash | A mini here | 11:47:44 |
| thefloweringash | So maybe luck or os version dependent. | 11:48:04 |
