| 22 Nov 2025 |
 Randy Eckenrode | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/463900 is the PR for the Darwin cleanup. It’s draft while x86_64-darwin builds. I’m pretty sure it will, but I should make sure. (I can’t wait until I no longer need to worry about x86_64-darwin.) | 01:42:41 |
| Randy Eckenrode | Doesn’t look like it’s doing that for KosmicKrisp and the Apple GLX support.
dr-xr-xr-x 10 root wheel 320 Dec 31 1969 ./
dr-xr-xr-x 5 root wheel 160 Dec 31 1969 ../
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 19M Dec 31 1969 libgallium-26.0.0-devel.dylib*
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 591K Dec 31 1969 libGL.1.dylib*
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 13 Dec 31 1969 libGL.dylib -> libGL.1.dylib*
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 70K Dec 31 1969 libVkLayer_MESA_anti_lag.dylib*
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1.1M Dec 31 1969 libVkLayer_MESA_overlay.dylib*
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 567K Dec 31 1969 libVkLayer_MESA_screenshot.dylib*
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 207K Dec 31 1969 libVkLayer_MESA_vram_report_limit.dylib*
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 12M Dec 31 1969 libvulkan_kosmickrisp.dylib*
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| stumik | hello | 17:59:22 |
| 23 Nov 2025 |
| Randy Eckenrode | If anyone is interested in trying KosmicKrisp, my branch is https://github.com/reckenrode/nixpkgs/tree/kosmickrisp. | 00:54:15 |
| Randy Eckenrode | I’ll be updated the Mesa checkout from time to time. | 00:54:24 |
| Randy Eckenrode | I rebased it on master to make it suck less if you want to build it.. | 00:57:45 |
| Randy Eckenrode | * | 00:57:50 |
 bake.monorail | Do you know if there's a portable way to distribute software through nix on macOS without root?
I'm thinking something like 1) Linux's user namespaces or 2) or using /tmp/nix/store as /nix/store.
AFAIU 1) is not viable while 2) would mean that any user of the machine can tamper with the software, given that I think /tmp is shared between users.
Ideas? | 10:40:22 |
| bake.monorail | Ah! I can just use /Applications/MyApp.app/nix/store as /nix/store! | 11:32:53 |
 niklaskorz | the metal shader compiler has been moved from Xcode 26 into a separate package but it's still not redistributable, meh | 11:48:31 |
| niklaskorz | I actually made a thing that does that for you | 11:50:05 |
| niklaskorz | https://codeberg.org/niklaskorz/nix-bundle-darwin | 11:50:11 |
| Randy Eckenrode | Is the package still hidden behind a developer account? | 11:51:32 |
| niklaskorz | I might just give that a try with Tiny Glade (I hope it lets me override the Vulkan ICD) | 11:51:36 |
| niklaskorz | even better, you can only download it through Xcode (might be interesting to test if the URL it accesses is actually unauthenticated) | 11:52:05 |
| niklaskorz | xcodebuild -downloadComponent MetalToolchain | 11:52:18 |
| niklaskorz | only the Windows version can be downloaded from the web portal, but that does require a developer account | 11:52:55 |
| bake.monorail | Ah, I thought that was doing something different since it says "Unrestricted app location – nix-bundle-macos requires apps to be in /Applications/". | 11:55:34 |
| niklaskorz | well, it does patch all binaries to use rpath | 11:55:50 |
| bake.monorail | Ah so makes all the binaries "portable"? Like using $ORIGIN on linux, right? | 11:56:42 |
| niklaskorz | yup, but the portability is currently restricted to only supporting dynamic libraries in the nix store | 11:56:56 |
| niklaskorz | there is an issue to extend that to arbitrary nix store files | 11:57:06 |
| niklaskorz | https://codeberg.org/niklaskorz/nix-bundle-darwin/issues/1 | 11:57:13 |
| bake.monorail | I'd avoid run-time hacks tbh | 11:57:28 |
| niklaskorz | I'd make it opt in | 11:57:41 |
| niklaskorz | but also it's seldom needed on macOS | 11:57:46 |
| bake.monorail | I'm thinking having a nix store in /Applications/MyApp.app is rather acceptable. | 11:57:47 |
| niklaskorz | apps are supposed to access app-bundle files using the OS APIs | 11:57:59 |
| niklaskorz | not by directly accessing file paths | 11:58:04 |
