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3 Dec 2025
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeThe C++ bootstrap compiler can’t even use the 14.4 SDK.03:37:00
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrodehttps://github.com/swiftlang/swift/pull/8441303:37:01
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeI need to see if I can revert https://github.com/swiftlang/swift/pull/79186. Otherwise, that issue in 84413 prevents building against the 14.4 SDK.03:37:54
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrode

FAILED: bootstrapping1/SwiftCompilerSources/Basic.o /nix/var/nix/builds/nix-build-swiftc-6.2.1+bootstrap.drv-0/b/source/build/bootstrapping1/SwiftCompilerSources/Basic.o
cd /nix/var/nix/builds/nix-build-swiftc-6.2.1+bootstrap.drv-0/b/source/SwiftCompilerSources && /nix/var/nix/builds/nix-build-swiftc-6.2.1+bootstrap.drv-0/b/source/build/bootstrapping0/bin/swiftc -c -o /nix/var/nix/builds/nix-buil>
<unknown>:0: warning: using (deprecated) legacy driver, Swift installation does not contain swift-driver at: '/nix/var/nix/builds/nix-build-swiftc-6.2.1+bootstrap.drv-0/b/source/build/bootstrapping0/bin/swift-driver-new'
/nix/store/bj5iys7xm7ba8xxsc6hb9q6zv9x5igs2-apple-sdk-14.4/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX14.4.sdk/usr/lib/swift/Swift.swiftmodule/arm64e-apple-macos.swiftinterface:10062:3: error: missing return in instance metho>
10060 |     }
10061 |     while true
10062 |   }
      |   `- error: missing return in instance method expected to return 'FlattenSequence<Base>.Iterator.Element?' (aka 'Optional<Base.Element.Element>')
10063 | }
10064 | extension Swift.FlattenSequence.Iterator : Swift.Sequence {
03:38:08
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeThough. Hmm. I wonder if swift-driver works.03:38:43
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeWhy isn’t it setting it up?03:38:50
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeNope. I may have to try to revert that change.04:24:00
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrode I think I managed to revert the optimizer changes that cause this failure. The optimization pass moved to Swift, which broke the C++ bootstrap compiler. There have been some workarounds done in the Swift stdlib, but those don’t help when dealing with SDK swiftinterface files that have the same constructs. 05:17:05
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeI am so happy I don’t have to rebuild LLVM every time while working on this ….05:17:48
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeDammit, no. Let’s see if reverting the change in the stage 1 compiler works.05:19:18
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeIt built! That’s a Swift compiler that supports macros, which should let it build the full compiler and SwiftPM.05:36:58
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeUnfortunately, install phase failed. I’ll fix that tomorrow.05:37:05
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I'm getting these, when trying to build dovecot after a nixpkgs upgrade:

ld: symbol(s) not found for architecture arm64
clang: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see invocation)
make[3]: *** [Makefile:651: libssl_iostream_openssl.la] Fehler 1
make[3]: *** Es wird auf noch nicht beendete Prozesse gewartet …
libtool: link: ar cr .libs/libssl_iostream.a .libs/iostream-ssl.o .libs/iostream-ssl-context-cache.o .libs/iostream-ssl-test.o
libtool: link: ranlib .libs/libssl_iostream.a
libtool: link: ( cd ".libs" && rm -f "libssl_iostream.la" && ln -s "../libssl_iostream.la" "libssl_iostream.la" )
make[3]: Verzeichnis „/nix/var/nix/builds/nix-build-dovecot-2.3.21.1.drv-0/b/dovecot-2.3.21.1/src/lib-ssl-iostream“ wird verlassen
make[2]: *** [Makefile:573: all-recursive] Fehler 1
make[2]: Verzeichnis „/nix/var/nix/builds/nix-build-dovecot-2.3.21.1.drv-0/b/dovecot-2.3.21.1/src“ wird verlassen
make[1]: *** [Makefile:704: all-recursive] Fehler 1
make[1]: Verzeichnis „/nix/var/nix/builds/nix-build-dovecot-2.3.21.1.drv-0/b/dovecot-2.3.21.1“ wird verlassen
make: *** [Makefile:548: all] Fehler 2

Package version hasn't been updated in ages. I can see that the SDK was updated. Last time it successfully build I was using apple-sdk-11.3 in stdenv. Now we are using apple -sdk-14.4. Could this be related?

05:55:30
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeThere was also a change to enforce availability annotations.15:08:42
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeBut the missing symbols appear to be internal to Dovecot. Something in its build is getting confused.15:09:11
@saiko:knifepoint.netKatalin 🔪fwiw there is a “mostly done just needs a little polish” update to 2.4 or whatever and I’m already using it20:40:34
@saiko:knifepoint.netKatalin 🔪this is the PR, if you want to see if it works for you: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/410912 I do have my own changeset that I run on my server that has diverged a bit but only in the nixos module so it shoulndn’t be necessary here20:48:55
4 Dec 2025
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeIt’s amazing that Apple managed to successfully compile Swift 6.2 for release with Xcode. I got a bootstrap compiler to build with macros enabled. It crashes building the Swift Compiler Driver.00:52:54
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrode Why would nativeBuildInputs use the dev output of a derivation? 02:11:10
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrode Oh, I need to fixup nix-support. 02:20:39
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrode
/nix/store/7x3jpimm3qaffhdcgj23rd51gpmy4p2f-apple-sdk-26.0/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX26.0.sdk/usr/lib/swift/Swift.swiftmodule/arm64e-apple-macos.swiftinterface:34793:42: error: Using type 'Int' can cause metadata allocation or locks
04:48:13
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrode
34791 |
34792 |   let queryVersion = (Int(major), Int(minor), Int(patch))
34793 |   let major32 = Int32(truncatingIfNeeded:Int(queryVersion.0))
      |                                          `- error: Using type 'Int' can cause metadata allocation or locks
34794 |   let minor32 = Int32(truncatingIfNeeded:Int(queryVersion.1))
34795 |   let patch32 = Int32(truncatingIfNeeded:Int(queryVersion.2))
04:50:31
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeThat looks really familiar. I swear I fixed something like this before.04:50:41
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrodehttps://github.com/swiftlang/swift/pull/77780, but shouldn’t that be in Swift 6.2?05:09:55
@xoredg:matrix.orgxoredhmm I had aerospace and jankyborders through nix-darwin, I'm considering moving to hm so I can see the config and maybe get stylix support, I disabled the service on nix-darwin and yet even after telling me the packages were uninstalled, it is launching on login, jankyborders and all, am I assuming wrong that I don't need to do manual cleanup?05:12:13
@xoredg:matrix.orgxoredI can still see the daemons in ~/Library/LaunchAgents05:14:32
@xoredg:matrix.orgxoredmaybe it's a bug? while removing them it did ask show they were write-protected, but I didn't have to sudo or anything05:16:07
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