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5 Mar 2026
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily we did just land the eval warning for x86_64-darwin 15:37:14
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyneed to get back to my stack that rips it out for 26.05 soon15:37:25
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunat Maybe the last couple of cycles were slower for darwin, but it seems so now even for staging-next-25.11 and this kind of changes weren't backported, right? 15:37:46
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunat * Maybe the last couple of cycles felt slower for darwin, but it seems so now even for staging-next-25.11 and this kind of changes weren't backported, right? 15:37:56
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythe change hit 25.1115:38:10
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyso it was already present at release, AIUI15:38:20
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunatOh, OK.15:38:20
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyso if 25.11 got slower and wasn't always slow then it's probably not that15:38:33
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilybut if 25.11 was always slower than 25.05 it could be that15:38:39
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily(unless it's "got slower once the builders were updated to 25.11" 😅)15:39:23
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunatOctober was quite a long ago.15:39:31
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilylast couple cycles sounds more like OS upgrade to me, though I forget when the last one of those was.15:39:42
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunatI mean, if it's a nixpkgs change, you could pick a random package and measure the time a year ago and now.15:40:30
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunatIf it's a well measurable difference, then even bisection is viable.15:40:50
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunat (--first-parent bisection might be relatively low-effort) 15:41:38
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunat(until you hit a staging* merge - and then it's harder to dig inside)15:42:18
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyright. I probably shouldn't get sidetracked investigating right now, was just wondering if there was anything obvious I could correlate with when things started to get slower15:42:19
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunat * (until you hit the staging* merge containing the regression - and then it's harder to dig inside) 15:42:34
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunatNo, I don't think we have that.15:42:50
@glepage:matrix.orgGaétan Lepage

Learned about this. Good to hear! x86_64-darwin is quite a burden TBH.

Just to be sure, we are expected to "stop caring (as much)" about this platform after the 26.05 branch off, right?

18:11:41
@ihar.hrachyshka:matrix.orgIhar Hrachyshkafor master yes; there will be support for 26.05 for its cycle18:12:28
@antifuchs:asf.computerantifuchsreminds me I should finally disable the aarch64-darwin/x86_64-darwin dual system setup I have on my macs18:39:24
6 Mar 2026
@alexfmpe:matrix.orgalexfmpe trying to build pkgsStatic.perl on aarch64-darwin gives me
/nix/store/3zrx6av2d1141igkcn8477cvbfqpcmcf-bash-5.3p9/bin/bash: line 1: ranlib: command not found
11:55:40
@alexfmpe:matrix.orgalexfmpe and sure enough, ranlib is present in nix-shell for perl but not pkgsStatic.perl 11:56:10
@alexfmpe:matrix.orgalexfmpeis this expected? intended?11:56:26
@symphorien:xlumurb.eusymphorienit's probably prefixed, as it is cross13:00:05
@symphorien:xlumurb.eusymphorienmaybe replace by $RANLIB13:00:22
@ragdoc:matrix.orgragdoc joined the room.15:12:36
@ragdoc:matrix.orgragdocGreetings. I am currently struggling with getting a package.nix I created tied into my nix-darwin flake.nix. Is this documented somewhere I might have missed? I can build the package manually, but I would prefer to have that happen as part of each darwin-rebuild operation.15:20:39
@samasaur:matrix.orgsamasauras in you have a package.nix file and you have a packages flake output that calls that package, so you can nix build it, but you want to know how to call that package from your nix-darwin configuration?15:22:28

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