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27 May 2021
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywell, you can't ever use a sudo "other" than the system's one02:37:31
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilysince any customization of it to be another nix package would be non-suid02:37:38
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyand need wrapping (which can only happen through some sort of admin-approved system config)02:37:46
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyso I don't see where else you could find it but PATH or unportable NixOS-specific/macOS-specific paths02:37:59
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilybut yeah I don't think it should be treated as a builtin per se, but just something explicitly marked to be late-bound and not rewritten02:38:19
@abathur:matrix.orgabathur not sure if this is hair-splitting in this context, but resholve is doing a kind of PATH search (at build/resolve time)--it's just forcing the user to explicitly specify that PATH so that everything is explicit and not implicit 02:43:29
@abathur:matrix.orgabathurso maybe another way of framing the problem is that Nix doesn't have a ~grammar for expressing that dependency, and resholve is at Nix's mercy inside the build sandbox02:44:27
@abathur:matrix.orgabathur but at least at the CLI level, it's valid (if ~missing the point?) to do something like resholve --inputs "$PATH" ... 02:49:04
@abathur:matrix.orgabathur it isn't implemented yet, but I have considered supporting specifying each executable abspath, since it would support specifying /usr/bin/sudo without having to specify /usr/bin 02:52:25
@abathur:matrix.orgabathurthough there's still the question of resholve not being able to verify that the file exists through the sandbox02:59:34
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@edwlan:m.edw.aiedwlan

I'm currently building with a checkout of nixpkgs from GitHub on the branch staging-next.

$ nix-build --argstr system aarch64-darwin -I nixpkgs=$PWD -A emacs
...
checking AppKit/AppKit.h usability... no
checking AppKit/AppKit.h presence... yes
configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h: present but cannot be compiled
configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h:     check for missing prerequisite headers?
configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h: see the Autoconf documentation
configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h:     section "Present But Cannot Be Compiled"
configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h: proceeding with the compiler's result
configure: WARNING:     ## ------------------------------------ ##
configure: WARNING:     ## Report this to bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org ##
configure: WARNING:     ## ------------------------------------ ##
checking for AppKit/AppKit.h... no
configure: error: The include files (AppKit/AppKit.h etc) that
are required for a Nextstep build are missing or cannot be compiled.
Either fix this, or re-configure with the option '--without-ns'.
03:21:56
@edwlan:m.edw.aiedwlan *

I'm currently building with a checkout of nixpkgs from GitHub on the branch staging-next. I realize this is "unsupported", but are there any pointers to getting this working?

$ nix-build --argstr system aarch64-darwin -I nixpkgs=$PWD -A emacs
...
checking AppKit/AppKit.h usability... no
checking AppKit/AppKit.h presence... yes
configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h: present but cannot be compiled
configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h:     check for missing prerequisite headers?
configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h: see the Autoconf documentation
configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h:     section "Present But Cannot Be Compiled"
configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h: proceeding with the compiler's result
configure: WARNING:     ## ------------------------------------ ##
configure: WARNING:     ## Report this to bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org ##
configure: WARNING:     ## ------------------------------------ ##
checking for AppKit/AppKit.h... no
configure: error: The include files (AppKit/AppKit.h etc) that
are required for a Nextstep build are missing or cannot be compiled.
Either fix this, or re-configure with the option '--without-ns'.
03:22:20
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro
In reply to @edwlan:m.edw.ai

I'm currently building with a checkout of nixpkgs from GitHub on the branch staging-next. I realize this is "unsupported", but are there any pointers to getting this working?

$ nix-build --argstr system aarch64-darwin -I nixpkgs=$PWD -A emacs
...
checking AppKit/AppKit.h usability... no
checking AppKit/AppKit.h presence... yes
configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h: present but cannot be compiled
configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h:     check for missing prerequisite headers?
configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h: see the Autoconf documentation
configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h:     section "Present But Cannot Be Compiled"
configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h: proceeding with the compiler's result
configure: WARNING:     ## ------------------------------------ ##
configure: WARNING:     ## Report this to bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org ##
configure: WARNING:     ## ------------------------------------ ##
checking for AppKit/AppKit.h... no
configure: error: The include files (AppKit/AppKit.h etc) that
are required for a Nextstep build are missing or cannot be compiled.
Either fix this, or re-configure with the option '--without-ns'.
missing darwin.sdk.app_frameworks.AppKit IIRC
03:22:32
@edwlan:m.edw.aiedwlan(sorry M1, is additional relevant context)03:22:47
@edwlan:m.edw.aiedwlan Thanks Sandro: 03:22:54
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro
In reply to @edwlan:m.edw.ai

I'm currently building with a checkout of nixpkgs from GitHub on the branch staging-next. I realize this is "unsupported", but are there any pointers to getting this working?

$ nix-build --argstr system aarch64-darwin -I nixpkgs=$PWD -A emacs
...
checking AppKit/AppKit.h usability... no
checking AppKit/AppKit.h presence... yes
configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h: present but cannot be compiled
configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h:     check for missing prerequisite headers?
configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h: see the Autoconf documentation
configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h:     section "Present But Cannot Be Compiled"
configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h: proceeding with the compiler's result
configure: WARNING:     ## ------------------------------------ ##
configure: WARNING:     ## Report this to bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org ##
configure: WARNING:     ## ------------------------------------ ##
checking for AppKit/AppKit.h... no
configure: error: The include files (AppKit/AppKit.h etc) that
are required for a Nextstep build are missing or cannot be compiled.
Either fix this, or re-configure with the option '--without-ns'.
* missing darwin.apple_sdk.frameworks.AppKit IIRC
03:23:24
@sandro:supersandro.deSandrocorrect the name03:23:30
@edwlan:m.edw.aiedwlanJust add that as a buildInput?03:23:37
@sandro:supersandro.deSandromaybe. Didn't test 03:23:47
@edwlan:m.edw.aiedwlanI can poke around, thanks for the hint03:24:40
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@edwlan:m.edw.aiedwlanSo, it looks to me like that's already being passed into the emacs derivation correctly.04:19:16
@edwlan:m.edw.aiedwlanhttps://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/top-level/all-packages.nix#L23190-L2319904:20:08
@edwlan:m.edw.aiedwlan * https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/staging-next/pkgs/top-level/all-packages.nix#L23190-L2319904:20:21
@thefloweringash:matrix.orgthefloweringashI started looking at emacs on m1, it needs at least this: https://github.com/thefloweringash/nixpkgs/commit/01f995a5bcbe9bd414e19abc2c570a7cb73c9af104:33:16
@thefloweringash:matrix.orgthefloweringashI didn't look at appkit yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if the problem was in the framework structure04:34:09
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily"Emacs checks for arm-apple-darwin, but our configuration is aarch64-apple-darwin." ouch04:34:20
@thefloweringash:matrix.orgthefloweringash oops, somehow I managed to push that with lib.fixedWithNumber instead of lib.fixedWidthNumber 04:38:43
@edwlan:m.edw.aiedwlanThat's getting further, thanks04:40:19

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