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8 Jun 2026
@samasaur:matrix.orgsamasaurSeems like they might be mixing everything together because they don't have a bunch of platform-specific new features to show17:21:22
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeI don’t mind if they go over every single window in macOS showing how it no longer looks as crappy.17:22:04
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeI also wouldn’t mind a surprise feature like surprise jails/zones/containers. Snow Leopard got GCD in spite of being a “performance” release.17:25:58
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrode(I’m aware that’s some serious wishful thinking.)17:26:47
@niklaskorz:matrix.orgniklaskorz Fingers crossed for the platforms state of the union then 17:32:51
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeApple Intelligence will use Spotlight. Is that new?17:33:49
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeThey also talked about a new scheduler, which is pretty wild for the keynote. Definitely want to watch the platform SotU.17:34:24
@samasaur:matrix.orgsamasaurI mean given that they're redoing spotlight it seems like maybe they built it for Siri and extended it to use for spotlight17:34:44
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeMaybe there will be some way to make it see into the store now ….17:35:08
@samemrecebi:vivius.iosamemrecebiHey siri where is the nix store?17:38:06
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeI hope they have an option to keep Siri sounding like a robot.17:39:26
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrode“I found this volume taking up 200 GiB of space. I deleted it for you.”17:39:48
@ihar.hrachyshka:matrix.orgIhar HrachyshkaWhen is platform sotu?18:18:03
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrode1:00 PM PDT18:22:12
@niklaskorz:matrix.orgniklaskorz 8:00 PM UTC for the lazy Europeans 18:44:56
@niklaskorz:matrix.orgniklaskorz(I'm a lazy European)18:45:31
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrodehttps://developer.apple.com/documentation/macos-release-notes/macos-27-release-notes19:02:34
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrode

In macOS 27.0, menu bar and context menus present a reduced set of menu item images, similar to the behavior prior to macOS 26.0.

19:03:19
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrode

Intel-based applications that will no longer run in macOS 28.0 now display a treatment in Get Info.

19:06:25
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeThey also have a tool for testing the legacy game support, but it’s only available during beta, and it disables Rosetta 2 support.19:08:28
@niklaskorz:matrix.orgniklaskorz

You cannot update AirPods Max 2 firmware beta in iOS 27 Beta 1 and macOS 27 Beta 1. AirPods Max 2 firmware beta updates are supported in iOS 27 Beta 2 and macOS 27 Beta 2. (178280323)

...there already is a Beta 2?

19:11:39
@mall0c:matrix.orgmall0c

I am not looking forward to "golden gate"

New Siri AI ...
Visual Intelligence ...

🤮

doesnt seem like anything new between 26 -> 27 other than that. UI looks same. To me, seems like a minor update rather than a major one

19:11:40
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrode

Rosetta
Deprecations

  • If Rosetta was previously installed, it is not automatically restored after upgrading to macOS 27.0. (163213094)
  • Installer packages which specify no hostArchitecture will now default to arm64. Ensure any pre and post install scripts behave as intended under arm64. Additionally, audit any remaining installer plugins to ensure compatibility on Apple silicon. (171187112)
  • Intel-based plugins and loaders may not appear in Settings or trigger notifications of their incompatibility. All Intel-based software will no longer be compatible with macOS 28.0, excluding legacy games.
    Check common plugin locations for VSTs, HAL, ARA, PDEs, Color Pickers, Quicklook & Spotlight plugins/extensions/components, such as: ~/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/* ~/Library/Printers/ ~/Library/ColorPickers/ (176042635)
19:11:56
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeI’m planning to wait a while to install the beta, but if someone does, it would be interesting to see whether Wine from Nixpkgs works using the legacy game stuff. It’s clearly separate from Rosetta 2.19:13:41
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrode * 19:13:50
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeIt’s supposed to be a polish/performance release like Snow Leopard or Mountain Lion. The keynote showed some improvements to Liquid Glass (like sidebars being back on the side again and toolbars having some tint behind them). The release notes didn’t really say a lot about under the hood changes. Maybe the SotU will be more informative (but I doubt it).19:19:35
@niklaskorz:matrix.orgniklaskorzI might just bite because I'm tired of the Tahoe update prompt19:21:16
@niklaskorz:matrix.orgniklaskorz And I won't ever use Tahoe's UI voluntarily 19:21:40
@mall0c:matrix.orgmall0cI might install on my M1 Max device that I have in the living room. I never used it before though. Which games work on wine on arm64?19:21:49
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeWine on ARM64 doesn’t work on macOS due to Apple-imposed limitations. This would be running the x86_64-darwin version under the legacy game compatibility, which can be enabled in the beta and disables Rosetta 2.19:22:45

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