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15 Oct 2025
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@helle:tacobelllabs.nethelle (just a stray cat girl)(it also probably should not be "Not run" but "Queued" but idk if we can easily do this without losing it for actual cases where we end up having a CI "Not run" situation)11:49:27
@helle:tacobelllabs.nethelle (just a stray cat girl)the irony of forgetting to check Buildkite and forgetting how the queue is represented on a doc patch to mention for Buildkite in the hacking document is not lost on us12:00:24
@just1602:systemli.orgjust1602This morning I saw that https://github.com/flokli/gerrit-queue has been archived, and I was wondering what the infra team was planning to use as a merge queue?14:26:17
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI had planned to take inspiration from flokli's code and integrate it into gerrit-autosubmit (which is simply an autosubmitter)15:42:31
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusThe thing that shows the jobs is a JavaScript plugin (very hackable), you could probably pull the JS console and hack to see if there's missing data we could be processing to show this16:34:26
@helle:tacobelllabs.nethelle (just a stray cat girl)oh, I can have look16:36:37
@helle:tacobelllabs.nethelle (just a stray cat girl)yeah, the data is there, both the individual jobs in and waiting_jobs_count, which we can turn into a display item for sure19:56:25
@helle:tacobelllabs.nethelle (just a stray cat girl)where is the source for the buildkite-checks plugin?20:00:39
@delroth:delroth.netdelrothhttps://git.afnix.fr/afnix/infra/src/branch/main/overlays/gerrit-plugins/buildkite-checks21:23:44
@delroth:delroth.netdelrothfeel free to ping me directly if you need a patch deployed for testing21:24:05
16 Oct 2025
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericson jade_: https://github.com/mesonbuild/meson/issues/1564#issuecomment-2322768608 not the first time we both encountered the same bug and were like "wtf!" :) 16:12:09
@jade_:matrix.orgjade_you've seen my code comments about this. i was really really mad.17:44:55
@rosssmyth:matrix.orgrosssmythMeson has a bunch of very funny decisions like this that make me not want to use it (I use it at work), but there's not much better. I guess bazel or buck2. 18:35:27
@rosssmyth:matrix.orgrosssmythEspecially cause the main dev, Eli, really treats users with contempt tbh18:36:10
@jade_:matrix.orgjade_ yeah but also i really hate the idea of fb owning the lix build system, in spite of working on one of the largest non-fb installations of buck2 at work and having a generally pretty good experience with it :P 19:05:58
@jade_:matrix.orgjade_like, it's got governance issues up there with some of the worst projects out there19:06:15
@jade_:matrix.orgjade_ * like, it's got governance issues up there with some of the worst projects out there by being straight up non-negotiably owned by fb 19:06:28
@jade_:matrix.orgjade_ * like, it's got governance issues up there with some of the worst projects out there by being straight up non-negotiably owned by fb. but the maintainers are lovely people. so idk. 19:06:38
@jade_:matrix.orgjade_ but indeed, i am a meson hater, i just don't know if there's any better alternatives that actually care about the distro use case 19:07:17
@just1602:systemli.orgjust1602Fork buck2, called it luck, and put it under lix governance ! :D19:10:34
@rosssmyth:matrix.orgrosssmythYeah. I totally get it. I know one of the buck2 devs and great guy. I've never used it cause I think the docs aren't very good rn, and the whole meta aspect as well. 19:10:42
@just1602:systemli.orgjust1602I'll see myself out ! 👋19:10:43
@jade_:matrix.orgjade_ have you seen how big buck2 is, lmfao 19:10:48
@jade_:matrix.orgjade_it's that you can't afford to maintain a fork!19:10:54
@jade_:matrix.orgjade_the docs are pretty hilarious yes, we have to read the sources about as much if not more than nixpkgs19:11:27
@rosssmyth:matrix.orgrosssmythYeah all my C projects are embedded and so my first question is always "ok how do I use arm-none-eabi gcc" and spending a bit looking around in the docs my answer is "idk bro"19:12:36
@jade_:matrix.orgjade_the answer is it's in your toolchain definition, but yeah, uh, hahahahahahahaha lmao19:13:37
@jade_:matrix.orgjade_ * the answer is it's in your toolchain definition, but yeah, uh, hahahahahahahaha lmao. and buck2 is way better at cross technically than meson 19:13:55
@rosssmyth:matrix.orgrosssmythNot surprised, meson's cross is barely adequate in most cases.19:14:44

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