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9 Oct 2025
@jade_:matrix.orgjade_ * in fact, nixpkgs should just set the NIX_CONFIG abort-on-warn thing assuming it is matched between cppnix and lix, imo 20:37:56
@jade_:matrix.orgjade_I would appreciate this being fixed in nixpkgs' test suite before we can release this feature into GA20:38:24
@jade_:matrix.orgjade_* I would appreciate this being fixed in nixpkgs' test suite before we can release this feature into GA, because it means that it avoids a period of nixpkgs CI not working properly.20:38:47
@philiptaron:matrix.orgPhilip Taron (UTC-8)I'm in the channel in part because I was grossed out by the code in Nixpkgs.21:02:24
@philiptaron:matrix.orgPhilip Taron (UTC-8) The code we're talking about is this function, right? 21:08:07
@philiptaron:matrix.orgPhilip Taron (UTC-8) That codepath is only lit up for Lix, since every supported cppnix has builtins.warn. 21:08:45
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@jade_:matrix.orgjade_ right, but the stuff that uses it is relying on NIX_ABORT_ON_WARN=true doing something at all, which it will not do if we implement the lix side well 23:26:52
@jade_:matrix.orgjade_ * right, but the stuff that uses it is relying on NIX_ABORT_ON_WARN=true doing something at all, which it will not do if we implement the lix side the way we want 23:27:01
@jade_:matrix.orgjade_ thus the users of builtins.warn inside nixpkgs test driver code need to start setting NIX_CONFIG so that they don't require us to implement the legacy environment variable 23:27:31
@jade_:matrix.orgjade_ * right, but the stuff that uses it is relying on NIX_ABORT_ON_WARN=true doing something at all, which it will not do if we implement the lix side the way we want. cppnix reads NIX_ABORT_ON_WARN like the nixpkgs polyfill 23:27:55
@jade_:matrix.orgjade_https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/086b8fb31f8cbab212aa093fd4aa672970ff3212/pkgs/top-level/nixpkgs-basic-release-checks.nix#L49 https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/086b8fb31f8cbab212aa093fd4aa672970ff3212/nixos/modules/misc/documentation.nix#L136 https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/086b8fb31f8cbab212aa093fd4aa672970ff3212/lib/tests/modules.sh#L478 these three need to stop doing this23:29:39
@jade_:matrix.orgjade_ *

https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/086b8fb31f8cbab212aa093fd4aa672970ff3212/pkgs/top-level/nixpkgs-basic-release-checks.nix#L49
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/086b8fb31f8cbab212aa093fd4aa672970ff3212/nixos/modules/misc/documentation.nix#L136
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/086b8fb31f8cbab212aa093fd4aa672970ff3212/lib/tests/modules.sh#L478

these three need start doing NIX_CONFIG in addition to the legacy var

23:29:55
10 Oct 2025
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@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius Rutile (Commentator2.0) feel free to ping: FYI, horrors might be bisecting the whole F2 situation 10:43:35
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusThe timeouts are clearly due to F2 hanging and not exiting10:45:43
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusWhy is not clear yet to me10:45:47
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius(Additional macOS capacity is being connected today as well)10:45:58
@commentator2.0:elia.gardenRutile (Commentator2.0) feel free to ping
In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org
Why is not clear yet to me
Me neither
10:46:01
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusWe will see what we can do, please be careful with the spurious +1 caused by timeouts of macOS builds10:46:19
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusFortunately, F1 → F2 migration doesn't touch any "user level code"10:46:32
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusBut any other change is suffering from this10:46:39
@commentator2.0:elia.gardenRutile (Commentator2.0) feel free to ping
In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org
But any other change is suffering from this
Yeah
10:46:52
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius(the only big change for that is Pascal strings tbh)10:46:57
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius* (the only big change for that are Pascal strings tbh)10:47:01
@commentator2.0:elia.gardenRutile (Commentator2.0) feel free to ping
In reply to @commentator2.0:elia.garden
likely caused by this commit (at least that's where we first saw this occur)
https://gerrit.lix.systems/c/lix/+/4212
Could we check if a revert on this might fix things?
10:47:15
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39364   ??  Ss     0:09.51 /nix/store/v21kg4vm7yy0wflh0avkibz0shk86jn8-python3-3.12.11/bin/python3 -m pytest -v -r fEs -n auto --maxprocesses=12 --dist=worksteal /private/tmp/nix-build-lix-2.94.0-devpre20251007_42691f0.drv-0/source/tests/functional2
39728   ??  Ss     0:04.83 /nix/store/v21kg4vm7yy0wflh0avkibz0shk86jn8-python3-3.12.11/bin/python3 -m pytest -v -r fEs -n auto --maxprocesses=12 --dist=worksteal /private/tmp/nix-build-lix-2.94.0-devpre20251008_26a5066.drv-1/source/tests/functional2
44358   ??  Ss     0:02.57 /nix/store/v21kg4vm7yy0wflh0avkibz0shk86jn8-python3-3.12.11/bin/python3 -m pytest -v -r fEs -n auto --maxprocesses=12 --dist=worksteal /private/tmp/nix-build-lix-2.94.0-devpre20251009_76a0180.drv-0/source/tests/functional2
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66067   ??  Ss     0:09.14 /nix/store/v21kg4vm7yy0wflh0avkibz0shk86jn8-python3-3.12.11/bin/python3 -m pytest -v -r fEs -n auto --maxprocesses=12 --dist=worksteal /private/tmp/nix-build-lix-2.94.0-devpre20251007_42691f0.drv-1/source/tests/functional2
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70622   ??  Ss     0:02.23 /nix/store/v21kg4vm7yy0wflh0avkibz0shk86jn8-python3-3.12.11/bin/python3 -m pytest -v -r fEs -n auto --maxprocesses=12 --dist=worksteal /private/tmp/nix-build-lix-2.94.0-devpre20251009_76a0180.drv-1/source/tests/functional2
86376   ??  Ss     0:05.68 /nix/store/v21kg4vm7yy0wflh0avkibz0shk86jn8-python3-3.12.11/bin/python3 -m pytest -v -r fEs -n auto --maxprocesses=12 --dist=worksteal /private/tmp/nix-build-lix-2.94.0-devpre20251008_5beb52f.drv-1/source/tests/functional2
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36434 s121  R+     0:00.00 grep -i lix-
11:23:40
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusplease give me control groups on macos11:23:44
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusplease11:23:45

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