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@aloisw:julia0815.dealoisw Will the attrset update thing too, given that even the Snix folks missed it? 17:32:23
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)it shall be17:32:35
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248):D17:32:37
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)in other news17:32:47
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)the Value changes creates this noticeable evaluation changes17:33:02
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)
android32.rustc.x86_64-linux changes error message significantly (was unfree, now is unsupported)
x86_64-freebsd.cargo.aarch64-darwin goes from unsupported to broken
x86_64-netbsd.buildPackages.binutils.aarch64-darwin evals (was infrec)
x86_64-netbsd.cargo.aarch64-darwin is broken (was infrec)
x86_64-netbsd.gmp.aarch64-darwin evals (was infrec)
x86_64-netbsd.libc.aarch64-darwin same
x86_64-netbsd.mesa.aarch64-darwin unsupported (was infrec)
x86_64-netbsd.nix.aarch64-darwin evals (was infrec)
x86_64-netbsd.nixVersions.git.aarch64-darwin same
x86_64-netbsd.rustc.aarch64-darwin same
17:33:06
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)we deem this an improvement17:33:15
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)but we also discovered outPath changes17:33:26
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)(which is the "uh-huh" moment)17:33:40
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)* the Value changes creates these noticeable evaluation changes17:33:54
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248) my personal explanation is that the sharing broke cycles in the evaluation expression graph, so we can do more 17:34:08
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)the test is 2.93 β†’ post-CL change17:34:16
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)(this is done from the release-cross.nix file)17:34:40
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)ok17:35:13
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)guessing time17:35:15
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@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)(the outPath alert was a false alarm but guess why just by reading this diff)17:35:27
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)(and then hate nixpkgs)17:35:35
@aloisw:julia0815.dealoisw How on earth does this work in pure mode to begin with? 17:36:55
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)i have no idea :D17:37:22
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)but this is fucking cursed code that has been accepted in nixpkgs17:37:34
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248) i think nixpkgs CI doesn't run in pure mode actually? 17:37:44
@aloisw:julia0815.dealoisw But surely someone runs this with fakes on their system? 17:40:01
@aloisw:julia0815.dealoisw But surely someone runs this with flakes on their system? 17:40:10
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248) maybe all drbd users are running without flakes 17:40:23
@aloisw:julia0815.dealoisw …or uses fish, or zsh, and notices not hitting the cache, one would think. 17:41:17
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)noticing not hitting the cache is definitely an art that is hard to master17:41:59
@aloisw:julia0815.dealoisw (or just break in fish, for that matter, given that they apparently want bash very specifically instead of any POSIX shell, which fish diverges from somewhat) 17:45:33
@just1602:systemli.orgjust1602There's pepole who actually use drbd outside of ganeti users, which are like Tor and Wikimedia? πŸ˜…18:31:51
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)don't joke about this18:32:25

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