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18 Aug 2025
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyNixpkgs has some problems with this too. (where two parties in a PR will deadlock waiting for the other to hit the button)15:36:33
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius(I'd also prefer that but the merge queue situation means that I have more people demanding why something is not merged than anything and teaching everyone about Gerrit's etiquette takes a lot of energy)15:36:39
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (so I have a more complicated hybrid strategy where I do take care of things and do merge things) 15:36:50
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilymerge queues would be very nice15:36:55
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyhaving two stacks that you have to babysit the rebase ordering of to get the tests happy to merge is tedious15:37:10
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilydoes the Snix thing for that not work well?15:37:16
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusIt has bugs and it would take much more energy to take care of these bugs or cleanup after a massive disaster in production15:37:36
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusSo until I have a window of opportunity for removing this painpoint, manual and tedious is fine as I have a bird view of everything and I know my way through all the ecosystem easily15:38:27
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusThe only problem are well, these situations :)15:38:32
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius* The only problems are well, these situations :)15:38:35
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius
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It has bugs and it would take much more energy to take care of these bugs or cleanup after a massive disaster in production
(which are not a virtual problem, they happened.)
15:40:38
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius emily i verified what i wanted on cl/3852 15:43:19
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius emily also consider abandoning the alternative path at this point 15:43:47
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusit confuse me always when i encounter while looking at the relation chain15:43:56
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius(we can always un-abandon it if needed)15:44:02
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily3869 you mean? can do when I get back to the stack. possibly later today. still have some thoughts I need to post about 3870 (but I've been running it and it's been fine)15:56:01
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyneed to get the reproducibility stuff sent out to Nixpkgs but hopefully I will get to that part of the backlog today15:56:30
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusdw17:47:03
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius emily does https://git.lix.systems/lix-project/lix/issues/966#issue-14037 ring a bell to you? 22:34:58
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariussounds like something related to the range we just merged22:35:06
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusit's a no sandboxing case so…22:35:12
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusactually, the range is larger22:35:48
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywhat's the tests right after the ones reported22:41:55
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythe flake ones are really slow but I guess not hours slow22:42:04
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusobviously this would be too easy if the ordering was consistent22:43:51
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusi don't know22:43:57
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusasking more info22:44:26
19 Aug 2025
@kira:jakira.spaceKirahi! i noticed that libsodium, one of the crypto libraries needed for lix, is lead by someone who thinks that vibe coding is an effective way of building software: https://www.reddit.com/r/vibecoding/comments/1kmptbo/my_first_significant_100_vibecoded_project. i don't know that much about libsodium, but just that fact that lix relies on a crypto library managed by one person already makes me nervous. it looks like it was added to support ed25519 signing keys in 2015 for binary caches (https://git.lix.systems/lix-project/lix/commit/e0def5bc4b41ad09ce3f188bf522814ef3389e1f), but it looks like openssl supports them now too. would it be worth it to replace it with openssl and drop the dependency?01:42:40
@kira:jakira.spaceKira(i was mainly looking into jedisct1 because i was looking more into who works on dnscrypt-proxy2, but also noticed he maintains libsodium)01:46:47
@kira:jakira.spaceKira* (i was mainly looking into jedisct1 because i was looking more into who works on dnscrypt-proxy2, but also noticed he built & maintains libsodium)01:48:49

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