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21 Mar 2026
@shalokshalom:kde.orgShalokShalomI like Cpp2, personally. But not many people seem to align with that sentiment, for some reason.13:49:42
@kfears:matrix.orgKFears& 🏳️‍⚧️ (they/them)We can't13:43:13
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tbh, according to that definition of (memory?) safety, Golang is also not safe
Go is one of the few languages that managed to get a GC runtime and memory unsafety. Truly a feat of engineering
13:59:56
@piegames:flausch.socialpiegamesPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes14:00:07
@piegames:flausch.socialpiegames(Sorry, I'll never not be bitter about what Go could –and should– have been)14:00:57
@blokyk:matrix.orgzoë (she/her) i already really didn't like the little bit of go i had to do, but mcyoung's posts (e.g. about nosplit and arenas) really fueled my hatred for it :D 14:04:17
@piegames:flausch.socialpiegamesOh wow, abusing comments for compiler directives sure is on-brand for this language14:06:17
@shalokshalom:kde.orgShalokShalomApropros Fil-C15:25:19
@shalokshalom:kde.orgShalokShalomhttps://railsatscale.com/2026-03-18-how-zjit-removes-redundant-object-loads-and-stores/15:25:22
@shalokshalom:kde.orgShalokShalomThey apparently done that effect system, that they are speaking about in this article.15:25:46
@shalokshalom:kde.orgShalokShalom Ah, it's the dev, that told me about it. Apparently a known figure in the VM world, cool. 15:27:21
@shalokshalom:kde.orgShalokShalom* They did the effect system themselves, that they are speaking about in this article. Same people21:33:02
@shalokshalom:kde.orgShalokShalom* Ah, the dev that told me about it, is apparently a known figure in the VM dev world, cool.21:33:28
@shalokshalom:kde.orgShalokShalom* The same people did develop ZJIT, and the effect system that they are speaking about in this article.21:34:48
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22 Mar 2026
@lisanna-dettwyler:matrix.orgLisannaand the reason why c++ can never be made completely memory safe03:54:23
@lisanna-dettwyler:matrix.orgLisannaeverything in the std library uses cursed iterators03:54:34
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23 Mar 2026
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@blokyk:matrix.orgzoë (she/her) is there any more feedback to give for Derivation with empty outputs gets an uncharacteristic error message (#1142)? and can anyone tell me if my comment on there is correct? it seems like a pretty trivial fix (maybe even candidate for E/easy, though i'm not sure how the team chooses which issues are suited for that) 14:01:12
@blokyk:matrix.orgzoë (she/her) * is there any more feedback to give for Derivation with empty outputs gets an uncharacteristic error message (#1142) (eg with regards to whether it should be catchable or not, and if we should also change derivationStrict)? and can anyone tell me if my comment on there is correct? it seems like a pretty trivial fix (maybe even candidate for E/easy, though i'm not sure how the team chooses which issues are suited for that) 14:02:02
@blokyk:matrix.orgzoë (she/her) * is there any more feedback to give for Derivation with empty outputs gets an uncharacteristic error message (#1142)? eg with regards to whether it should be catchable or not, and if we should also change derivationStrict
also can anyone tell me if my comment on there is correct? it seems like a pretty trivial fix (maybe even candidate for E/easy, though i'm not sure how the team chooses which issues are suited for that)
14:02:23
@qyriad:katesiria.orgQyriad I think that should be pretty easy, yeah 14:03:03
@qyriad:katesiria.orgQyriadNothing in your comment strikes me as wrong, but we haven't looked at that part recently14:03:50
@blokyk:matrix.orgzoë (she/her) * is there any more feedback to give for Derivation with empty outputs gets an uncharacteristic error message (#1142)? eg with regards to whether it should be catchable or not, and if we should also change derivationStrict
also can anyone tell me if my comment on there is correct? it seems like a pretty trivial fix (maybe even candidate for E/easy to leave to some first-time contributors, though i'm not sure how the team chooses which issues are suited for that)
14:04:28

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