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18 Aug 2025
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)
In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
I'm concerned about changing the format/prefix length twice
the only change that went in afaik is the one that doesn't include derivation names in build directories
14:50:42
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)we can revert that one if you feel like this is not ready yet for prime time14:50:52
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)and only few people would have seen it14:50:57
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)i'm not sure if your concern pertains actually CLs that are still unmerged14:51:37
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)or you are concerned about14:51:43
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@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)being merged as well14:51:47
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)which seems pretty safe to me14:51:57
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)either way, just please let me know what you prefer14:52:08
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)we can revert the entire series if you prefer it that way as well14:52:15
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)it's indeed "author-submits-the-thing" but with large stacks which receives a lot of attention and due to fast forward only, i take care of playing the merge queue until we have one14:52:52
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)(if we had a merge queue, your changes would have been sent too probably because they would have been ready to submit)14:53:28
@winter:catgirl.cloudWinter ah, okay. maybe consider doing one, or adding the patch to the module? i imagine more ppl on unstable will start complaining 😉 15:05:36
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)yep, we should do that, thanks15:05:58
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythis stack includes the changes that make build directories always nondeterministic on Darwin, to be clear15:31:39
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyit looks like the diff I had locally for that part of the stack was only cosmetic. I have been running the entire stack for a long while now and it has not caused me problems, though I have not tested the prefix you merged very extensively and it still produces rather long build directories. I was hoping to resolve the remaining questions soon and waiting on your review for the nested directory stuff15:32:50
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilybut it should be harmless given I didn't have significant unpushed changes and the code is good15:33:02
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)got it, still, I have to ask: is there any action you want to take regarding the merge?15:33:15
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilystill some more communication would have been nice if it was urgently wanted, I was asleep for the two hours between ping and merge15:33:24
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)i.e. a revert or X or Y where X or Y can be 'let's do nothing for now' :P15:33:26
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)I apologize for the communication and from now on, I will communicate for your stacks15:33:39
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI think let's do nothing and I will try to come back to the rest of the stack soon. but if you could finish reviewing the CL you have +1 on that would help15:33:48
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilysince I assumed the work was blocked on that15:33:53
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)(again: it was not urgently wanted but this was my Morning routineâ„¢ of merging things that are lingering)15:34:22
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI expect to get back to building my system closure ~today-ish15:34:25
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)alright, thanks!15:34:45
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)will prioritize the last pieces15:34:51
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily(FWIW I think "committers always merge" or "authors always merge" is probably a better norm than it depending, for the usual Gerrit reasons of "it's obvious whose turn it is" + knowing expectations for how you should communicate if some work is pending on some testing to obtain full confidence or such)15:35:59
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily(though for stuff like urgent fixes or security stuff the latter can be a pain I guess)15:36:14
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyNixpkgs has some problems with this too. (where two parties in a PR will deadlock waiting for the other to hit the button)15:36:33

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