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@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius
In reply to @winter:catgirl.cloud
fyi https://git.lix.systems/lix-project/lix/commit/858de5f47a1bfd33835ec97794ece339a88490f1 should probably be backported to a release, getting build errors on unstable bc lowdown bump
it's backported to all releases but i surmise that we didn't do any further release
14:33:30
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI did, but it looks like I resolved the comment as all-looks-resolvable-in-principle. I did not get around to sending the most basic fixes off to Nixpkgs for review though. I was pipelining testing it with the LLVM 21 bump which has felt more time-critical; if I'd known there was a hurry I could have prioritized but with the author-submits model I was just planning to come back to it once I felt confident and you said you were looking into one of the patches in the stack so I was also waiting on that14:48:51
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI'm concerned about changing the format/prefix length twice14:49:01
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusthere's no hurry14:49:02
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusit's HEAD14:49:05
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusi want to keep stack size small because once people starts sending their own large stacks, frustration starts14:49:26
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusyeah i'm still looking into one patch of the stack14:49:42
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusit's not submitted14:49:44
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius i submitted everything up to that specific point* 14:49:50
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius * i submitted everything up to that specific point 14:49:53
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius
In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
I'm concerned about changing the format/prefix length twice
the only change that went in afaik is the one that doesn't include derivation names in build directories
14:50:42
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariuswe can revert that one if you feel like this is not ready yet for prime time14:50:52
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusand only few people would have seen it14:50:57
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusi'm not sure if your concern pertains actually CLs that are still unmerged14:51:37
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusor you are concerned about14:51:43
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@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusbeing merged as well14:51:47
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariuswhich seems pretty safe to me14:51:57
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariuseither way, just please let me know what you prefer14:52:08
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariuswe can revert the entire series if you prefer it that way as well14:52:15
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusit's indeed "author-submits-the-thing" but with large stacks which receives a lot of attention and due to fast forward only, i take care of playing the merge queue until we have one14:52:52
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius(if we had a merge queue, your changes would have been sent too probably because they would have been ready to submit)14:53:28
@winter:catgirl.cloudWinter ah, okay. maybe consider doing one, or adding the patch to the module? i imagine more ppl on unstable will start complaining 😉 15:05:36
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusyep, we should do that, thanks15:05:58
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythis stack includes the changes that make build directories always nondeterministic on Darwin, to be clear15:31:39
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyit looks like the diff I had locally for that part of the stack was only cosmetic. I have been running the entire stack for a long while now and it has not caused me problems, though I have not tested the prefix you merged very extensively and it still produces rather long build directories. I was hoping to resolve the remaining questions soon and waiting on your review for the nested directory stuff15:32:50
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilybut it should be harmless given I didn't have significant unpushed changes and the code is good15:33:02
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusgot it, still, I have to ask: is there any action you want to take regarding the merge?15:33:15
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilystill some more communication would have been nice if it was urgently wanted, I was asleep for the two hours between ping and merge15:33:24
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusi.e. a revert or X or Y where X or Y can be 'let's do nothing for now' :P15:33:26

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