| 28 Jul 2025 |
 Qyriad | you can sanity check with LLVM libcxx on Linux, that has like… half of the differing behaviors | 20:22:46 |
 raitobezarius | good to know | 20:24:25 |
| raitobezarius | ok i got it | 20:24:38 |
| raitobezarius | i was missing -flat_namespace | 20:24:41 |
| raitobezarius | this makes me want to cry but ok | 20:25:10 |
| raitobezarius | ok this was still failing | 20:28:45 |
| raitobezarius | because | 20:28:46 |
| raitobezarius | NIX_SSL_CERT_FILE | 20:28:53 |
| raitobezarius | my beloved. | 20:28:57 |
| raitobezarius | rebase time | 20:29:17 |
 emily | uhh | 20:50:55 |
| emily | please do not | 20:50:57 |
| raitobezarius | set it? | 20:51:03 |
| emily | yes | 20:51:05 |
| emily | it's very deprecated | 20:51:06 |
| raitobezarius | if you teach me how to replace it, i'm glad | 20:51:13 |
| emily | sorry I'm missing context I just saw -flat_namespace and started twitching | 20:51:24 |
| raitobezarius | but right now i'm trying to understand why linux and darwin differs on giving a certificate to curl | 20:51:26 |
| emily | so many headaches have resulted | 20:51:28 |
| raitobezarius | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
sorry I'm missing context I just saw -flat_namespace and started twitching it's ok, i'm ranting here to summon darwin expertise | 20:51:40 |
| raitobezarius | and "don't do X or Y" | 20:51:43 |
| emily | (I wish Linux had two-level namespaces) | 20:51:46 |
| raitobezarius | and hopefully suggestions on how to do better | 20:51:48 |
| emily | if you are trying to do preload type stuff I am not sure what the correct solution is (it may be "don't do that") | 20:52:11 |
| emily | but maybe you can install_name_tool to adjust the internal name | 20:52:40 |
| emily | with -id or such | 20:52:48 |
| raitobezarius | what i'm seeing is | 20:53:06 |
| raitobezarius | (a) if i set -flat_namespace, static initializers seems to run | 20:53:15 |
| raitobezarius | (b) if i don't, they don't | 20:53:18 |
| raitobezarius | so how can I get static initializers to run in plugins on macOS? :D | 20:53:33 |
