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26 Jul 2025
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariuswhich can happen if you do21:03:08
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius NIX_SSL_CERT_FILE=a nix-build -A ... --option ssl-cert-file b 21:03:21
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusand is to me a problem I believe?21:03:29
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythis means that it can change mid-build on Linux yes?21:03:33
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI don't know if that's an issue per se but it unnerves me a bit21:03:49
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariuscorrect21:03:53
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI feel like, it should not be a problem21:04:01
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusif your system is going through changes of that style21:04:08
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusfailures should happen outside of Nix as well21:04:17
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyperhaps, yeah21:04:32
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusrealistically, how often CA certificates changes mid-builds?21:04:35
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywhat if you… replace it with a Unix socket21:04:38
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyit's just the bind mount that scares me21:04:43
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius
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what if you… replace it with a Unix socket
<insert meme of person unhappy>
21:04:51
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyno I mean like21:04:56
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywhat if something switches out the cert store for a Unix socket21:05:04
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI dunno21:05:10
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariuscan it change inode type?21:05:20
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywell you could do it between builds even (maybe? if that's not checked for)21:05:31
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius the setup happens at each build 21:05:43
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilynot having to think about all of this, and making it faster for Darwin, is why I landed on the store path solution 😅 – esp. since on Darwin the path already canonicalizes to something in the store already, so zero copying needed21:05:46
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusso if it becomes a socket after build 121:05:49
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily(though you do have to canonicalize again, in that case)21:05:54
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusit gets rejected21:05:58
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusi paged pennae on this question21:06:26
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyfwiw, not sure about this21:06:26
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusi'm slowlycrashing21:06:36
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyanyway, ideally there'd be some Darwin benchmark numbers but … that's hard21:06:38
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI don't oppose this path21:06:44
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI like the store thing the most still, but I'm not the one implementing it21:06:53

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