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4 Dec 2025
@helle:tacobelllabs.nethelle (just a stray cat girl)because ehgads17:44:08
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusopen a CL with the changes18:17:40
@rv32ima:envs.netellie changed their display name from Ellie (The Fake One) to ellie.19:57:33
@9999years:matrix.org9999yearshi. we have a nasty bug on at least some machines with at least lix 2.94.0 in some situations. definitely present on macos, not sure about linux20:04:16
@9999years:matrix.org9999years the reproducer on my machine is this: cd $(mktemp -d) && nix flake init && nix flake lock --debug 20:04:30
@9999years:matrix.org9999years

it gets stuck around here:

using cache entry '{"ingestionMethod":0,"name":"source","type":"file","url":"https://github.com/nixos/nixpkgs/archive/418468ac9527e799809c900eda37cbff999199b6.tar.gz"}' -> '{"etag":"W/\"5cd48868382e96938f2a04bff191018f8b59407d9ae34339c558b716c665372e\"","url":"https://codeload.github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/tar.gz/418468ac9527e799809c900eda37cbff999199b6"}', '/nix/store/6zx3brkqjsnr53b2p3fdn2k44q6pyj25-source'
performing daemon worker op: 7
20:04:44
@9999years:matrix.org9999yearsin some cases it may finish after a really long time (15 minutes)20:04:58
@9999years:matrix.org9999yearsplease run that command locally and let me know if it finishes. thanks!20:05:10
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusit finishes in 7s20:24:27
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusarguably 2.9520:24:38
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusi can try to reproduce with 2.94.0 but idk if the daemon is an important piece or not20:24:49
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusthat looks like a unexpected change in target URI20:25:21
@9999years:matrix.org9999yearswdym unexpected change in target uri?20:28:52
@9999years:matrix.org9999years

so it does finish eventually; 2.5 minutes for worker op 1 IsValidPath and 1.5 minutes for worker op 7 AddToStore:

Dec 04 12:30:06 performing daemon worker op: 1
Dec 04 12:30:06 using cache entry '{"ingestionMethod":0,"name":"source","type":"file","url":"https://github.com/nixos/nixpkgs/archive/418468ac9527e799809c900eda37cbff999199b6.tar.gz"}' -> '{"etag":"W/\"5cd48868382e96938f2a04bff191018f8b59407d9ae34339c558b716c665372e\"","url":"https://codeload.github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/tar.gz/418468ac9527e799809c900eda37cbff999199b6"}', '/nix/store/6zx3brkqjsnr53b2p3fdn2k44q6pyj25-source'
Dec 04 12:32:33 finished performing daemon worker op: 1
Dec 04 12:32:33 performing daemon worker op: 7
Dec 04 12:33:58 finished performing daemon worker op: 7
20:35:21
@9999years:matrix.org9999yearsthe 1.5 minute times are pretty predictable -- we got any 90 second timeouts hanging around in there? 😬20:47:25
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusgithub changing URI after the first GET21:41:07
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusit'd be helpful to have a strace on the Darwin daemon or more logging21:41:26
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusis this with maximum logging?21:41:31
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariuswe have various timeouts mechanisms at the curl level for DNS resolution and so on21:42:28
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusmaybe your DNS resolution is broken?21:42:32
@9999years:matrix.org9999years --debug, similar results with --debug -vvv 21:55:32
@9999years:matrix.org9999yearsseems unlikely but not impossible21:55:46
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius 9999years cannot reproduce on macOS arm64 22:28:35
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusuhm i'm stupid22:28:44
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusthis is running 2.93.322:28:46
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariuslet's upgrade the macOS fleet22:29:02
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius https://cl.afnix.fr/c/infra/+/174 22:30:36
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariuswe will see in the next minutes when the MDM redeploys the machine whether this is broken or not22:30:56
@9999years:matrix.org9999yearswe've got at least intermittent reports of it on 2.93.3 as well23:23:07
@9999years:matrix.org9999yearsi don't think the bug is super deterministic, whatever it is23:23:20

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