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1 Aug 2025
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythere are a finite and relatively small number of patches in flight right now16:14:26
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythere are always new people creating new patches from scratch16:14:32
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyand the partially-formatted state is worse for them16:14:41
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)
In reply to @charles:computer.surgery
i think it's more like "if you don't, the experience can be miserable, IF you need to rebase changes across the formatting commit" which seems like it would be pretty rare if you formatted all branches, no?
No because Lix work involve going back a lot in the past
16:14:44
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)I took care of CVE rebases and stuff, I know that if a formatter was in my way, this could have been one of those moments where this could have exceeded my patience16:15:25
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)
In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
and the partially-formatted state is worse for them
This I truly don't understand
16:16:02
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyis this not going to be true when the incremental reformat eventually completes…?16:16:06
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythere is always going to be a flag day16:16:14
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)
In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
is this not going to be true when the incremental reformat eventually completes…?
The window is completely different on an incremental reformat process
16:16:28
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)(also because I literally had to deal with very few issues reformatting to very old versions)16:16:49
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily this started with WeetHet giving an example (and it's also bad enough for my workflow that I'm just pushing formatting-noncompliant diffs right now), it may be that for WeetHet the solution is simple as finding the right editor toggle, but that's still not zero pain either 16:17:16
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyright I mean I agree that formatting on only one branch would be bad16:17:36
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilybut I don't see any reason why you'd do that16:17:42
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)
In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
this started with WeetHet giving an example (and it's also bad enough for my workflow that I'm just pushing formatting-noncompliant diffs right now), it may be that for WeetHet the solution is simple as finding the right editor toggle, but that's still not zero pain either
I understand the pains and I'm willing to see how we can better document help, even check in the files to do per-project configuration automatically for you
16:18:06
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)I do not think that a big reformat commit is at the agenda and will not be unless there's a very compelling reason to do so16:18:23
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI am pretty confident that there is no fix you can do with the current scheme that will be tolerable for my workflow. (but most people's problems are probably not my workflow's problems)16:18:47
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius (DECT: 7248)I understand that and I am sorry we cannot do better16:19:05
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily(it is frustrating that hypothetical problems without enough detail provided to explain why they would cause issues that cannot trivially be solved are prioritized over real-world problems people are having now…)16:20:29

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