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 Qyriad | * It also has rust_dynamic_std (I think per jade's request) which might be helpful too, | 11:30:02 |
 Rutile (Commentator2.0) feel free to ping | https://mesonbuild.com/Release-notes-for-1-9-0.html#new-experimental-option-rust_dynamic_std | 11:30:04 |
| Rutile (Commentator2.0) feel free to ping | From the official release notes | 11:30:12 |
 kloenk | (trying to find out how to best run cargo tests in a lix like setup (buildkite,gerrit,nix), not lix itself, so not wanting to annoy in this room, but if anyone has some opinions would like to hear them :) ) | 11:30:48 |
| Qyriad | Meson has a "rust" test type, you can look at that | 11:54:16 |
| kloenk | doing that. my test was using it in lix so I have not fight meson that much :) (will create a Cl, maybe lix wants to add the cargo tests to the unit test suit :) ) | 12:01:29 |
| kloenk | * | 12:02:23 |
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 raitobezarius | FWIW, Lix got an update on the Gerrit CI, we are now using proper scheduled icons for jobs | 03:06:21 |
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 aloisw | raitobezarius did you have time to look at the SQLite changes yet? | 13:10:30 |
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 Jules Lamur | Hi, are you aware of any plans about having input pinning commands (like eg. npins, but built in) in nixcpp / lix? That would be handy for people that do not want to use flakes or npins / niv. I feel that it would make sense to have a UX to do that natively, but you all might have better plans :) | 15:42:03 |
 helle (just a stray cat girl) | there are no plans to do this as things like npins can provide this functionality perfectly well externally | 15:43:09 |
| helle (just a stray cat girl) | we want to have less in the core, not more | 15:43:18 |
| helle (just a stray cat girl) | I mean you can make a lix-pin command in your PATH and with custom-sub-commands you can then run lix pin and it will run your command, which is cutesy I guess | 15:45:25 |
| helle (just a stray cat girl) | flakes are being moved to a plugin, Soon™ | 15:46:21 |
| Rutile (Commentator2.0) feel free to ping | npins as a lix plugins? :D | 15:47:06 |
| helle (just a stray cat girl) | I mean you can just have it as a lix subcommand already :3 | 15:47:24 |
| helle (just a stray cat girl) | I need to work on my patches to npins still, but got uh, sick and then distracted | 15:47:45 |
| Rutile (Commentator2.0) feel free to ping | uhhh right, i need to fix my npins pr too 🥴 | 15:48:20 |
| Jules Lamur | This position makes sense. I was fine with npins until I realized it does not check hashes of git inputs (cf. https://github.com/andir/npins/blob/0.3.1/src/default.nix#L113) and that no release has been made since it was fixed. The maintainer has not responsed to calls for a new release (cf. https://github.com/andir/npins/issues/178) (I'm not blaming him to be clear, but that would have been easier if such a command was part of a bigger project, and considering how many people rely on npins or equivalent software I thought that could be considered). | 15:52:27 |
| helle (just a stray cat girl) | so given that piegames probably has feelings on this and I suspect npins will get a release soonish, it is actively worked on | 15:53:42 |
| helle (just a stray cat girl) | and no, in a larger project, it just gets messy with how it needs to be integrated in the code base, maintained as a monolithic part, etc | 15:54:08 |
| helle (just a stray cat girl) | this is partially why Flakes are such a nightmare | 15:54:21 |
| helle (just a stray cat girl) | the other part, Flakes never were well defined | 15:54:32 |
