| 15 Apr 2026 |
 raitobezarius | some plain old fork() might be used in other places | 18:21:43 |
 Sergei Zimmerman (xokdvium) | Ah that's for the sandboxing setup, I see. I was looking at libexec helpers | 18:21:50 |
| raitobezarius | but wrt to derivation builds, the overhead is around 2µs ? | 18:21:59 |
| raitobezarius | getting lower would be nice ofc | 18:22:44 |
| raitobezarius | but not urgent | 18:22:49 |
| raitobezarius | it is now possible to build 1M derivations reasonably | 18:23:00 |
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| 20 Apr 2026 |
 antifuchs | All the lixcob talks I’ve seen recordings of so far are super great! Thanks for sharing them with all of us who couldn’t make it | 01:24:59 |
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| 21 Apr 2026 |
|  zoë (@blokyk) changed their display name from zoë (she/her) to zoë (@blokyk). | 03:08:40 |
| zoë (@blokyk) | <disclamer>i'm not good at c++ / don't know much about the stdlib</disclaimer>
i've seen an old FIXME by jade_ about getting rid of libutil::enumerate in favor of std::views::enumerate, but a lot of uses of it are for libutil::Generator, which don't seem like they can be easily substituted given Generator's unique semantics (notably nested generators, which i don't think is supported by any stdlib types?).
so is that comment still relevant? or so, then do you plan to replace non-generator uses of it and keep Generator, or will Generator also be replaced at some point? | 09:33:08 |
| zoë (@blokyk) | * <disclamer>i'm not good at c++ / don't know much about the stdlib</disclaimer>
i've seen an old FIXME by jade_ about getting rid of libutil::enumerate in favor of std::views::enumerate, but a lot of uses of it are for libutil::Generator, which don't seem like they can be easily substituted given Generator's unique semantics (notably nested generators, which i don't think is supported by any stdlib types?).
so is that comment still relevant? if so, then do you plan to replace non-generator uses of it and keep Generator, or will Generator also be replaced at some point? | 09:33:28 |
| zoë (@blokyk) | * <disclamer>i'm not good at c++ / don't know much about the stdlib</disclaimer>
i've seen an old FIXME by jade_ about getting rid of libutil::enumerate in favor of std::views::enumerate, but a lot of uses of it are for libutil::Generator, which don't seem like they can be easily substituted given Generator's unique semantics (notably nested generators, which i don't think is supported by any stdlib types?).
so is that comment still relevant? if so, then do you plan to replace non-generator uses of it but keep it and Generator, or will Generator also be replaced at some point? | 09:33:48 |
 Qyriad | LLVM libc++ doesn't have views::enumerate() yet :( | 09:34:36 |
| Qyriad | Not sure about Generator though | 09:35:20 |
| zoë (@blokyk) | oh i'm so dumb... i somehow misread the linked page about its stats ;-; | 09:35:48 |
| zoë (@blokyk) | * oh i'm so dumb... i somehow misread the linked page about its status ;-; | 09:36:21 |
| Qyriad | I did too the first time | 09:36:28 |
| zoë (@blokyk) | it's surround by bright green Complete so it's easy to mistake | 09:36:55 |
| zoë (@blokyk) | esp. weird because clangd doesn't flag it and gives you proper type checking for it | 09:37:36 |
| Qyriad | There's an open PR for it, but views::enumerate is surprisingly tricky https://brevzin.github.io/c++/2022/12/05/enumerate/ | 09:37:56 |
| zoë (@blokyk) | haha yeah i stumbled on that exact article while trying to understand how to use it | 09:38:17 |
| Qyriad | Because, yknow, C++ | 09:38:17 |
| zoë (@blokyk) | god stack traces being a Generator has been a thorn in my side every time i've made a repl-related cl >:| | 09:40:53 |
| zoë (@blokyk) | * god stack traces being a Generator has been a thorn in my side every time i've made a repl-related cl, it's so annoying to work with >:| | 09:41:11 |
| zoë (@blokyk) | * god stack traces being a Generator has been a thorn in my side every time i've made a debugger-related cl, it's so annoying to work with >:| | 09:42:18 |
| zoë (@blokyk) | * god stack frames being a Generator has been a thorn in my side every time i've made a debugger-related cl, it's so annoying to work with >:| | 09:44:08 |
| Sergei Zimmerman (xokdvium) | In reply to @qyriad:katesiria.org
There's an open PR for it, but views::enumerate is surprisingly tricky https://brevzin.github.io/c++/2022/12/05/enumerate/ I hate that enumerate uses a signed type… | 10:11:29 |
