| 16 May 2024 |
 delroth | also re: docs thanks for the pointer, I checked many manual pages (incl. "nix build"), I checked the glossary, etc. and of course didn't think of checking the generic "nix CLI" page | 22:59:55 |
| delroth | doesn't even really make sense that it's there because I think it's only a "build" feature anyway? | 23:00:06 |
| delroth | ah no, there's examples there with path-info | 23:00:19 |
 Qyriad | Yeah, the nix build and co pages now at least have a link to the generic "nix CLI page" saying that that's where installables are documented, but it needs to be so much more | 23:00:28 |
| Qyriad | and actually things like nix shell and nix develop can also use this syntax | 23:00:55 |
| Qyriad | Basically any nix3 command that might also realise in the process can do that | 23:01:11 |
| delroth | what does it mean to nix develop an output | 23:03:09 |
| Qyriad | fantastic question. | 23:03:51 |
| delroth | yeah. | 23:03:58 |
 puck | it uhhhhhhhhh | 23:04:00 |
| puck | sources $stdenv/setup, then does some churning to output the list of all variables and functions | 23:04:40 |
| puck | why is this part of Nix. this is nixpkgs-specific | 23:04:51 |
| delroth | yeah but all that is derivation specific, nothing that has to do with outputs | 23:05:27 |
| puck | oh! so | 23:06:04 |
| delroth | I'd guess it's just being ignored? | 23:06:17 |
| puck | you can nix develop a path that ends with -env and it'll .. just return an existing env file | 23:06:21 |
| Qyriad | just ran a nix develop on openssl^bin and openssl^lib and envd in both of them and there was zero difference | 23:06:22 |
| Qyriad | wait what | 23:06:45 |
| puck | okay, sec, this is a bit tricky to show | 23:06:57 |
| puck | okay so i just ran nix develop -vvvv, and grabbed the building of '/nix/store/ivs7b52v8h757wr2m7c00z5y958w33k1-nix-shell-env.drv^*' from .drv file: created line | 23:07:49 |
| delroth | also | 23:07:50 |
| Qyriad | In reply to@puck:puck.moe
why is this part of Nix. this is nixpkgs-specific the general problem of nix being so poorly interoperable that it has to do everything itself >.> | 23:07:55 |
| delroth | $ nix develop /nix/store/dr53sp25hyfsnzjpm8mh3r3y36vrw3ng-neovim-0.9.5^out
nix: src/libstore/derivations.cc:931: static std::string_view nix::BasicDerivation::nameFromPath(const nix::StorePath&): Assertion `nameWithSuffix.ends_with(extension)' failed.
| 23:07:59 |
| delroth | so yeah | 23:08:02 |
| delroth | let's fix the parser | 23:08:04 |
| Qyriad | yeah | 23:08:17 |
| puck | building that got me /nix/store/jnwd23hwyh8vim1k0pbnjp6843sl2xl9-nix-shell-env and i can just like. nix develop that store path, it looks like | 23:08:32 |
| delroth | wut | 23:08:46 |
| delroth | here I get e.g. "error: argument '/nix/store/dr53sp25hyfsnzjpm8mh3r3y36vrw3ng-neovim-0.9.5' did not evaluate to a derivation" | 23:08:54 |
| delroth | which is what I expected | 23:09:01 |
