| 18 Dec 2025 |
 helle (just a stray cat girl) | ah, okay, yeah, that is a valid reason | 11:57:11 |
| helle (just a stray cat girl) | (for now) | 11:57:22 |
| helle (just a stray cat girl) | (grmbls at the length of her todo list) | 11:57:36 |
| helle (just a stray cat girl) | though there are still just cases where you want to not have to drag in nixpkgs to get that simple enough feature | 11:57:59 |
 emily | well, they're just very different things in general | 12:12:43 |
| emily | e.g. builtin fetcher can't be remote built | 12:12:49 |
| helle (just a stray cat girl) | yeah | 12:13:15 |
| helle (just a stray cat girl) | I mean there are still reasons to remove this limitation though | 12:13:25 |
| helle (just a stray cat girl) | it is silly and very hardcode brained | 12:13:32 |
| helle (just a stray cat girl) | and if you aren't using nixpkgs for various reasons, being able to use libarchive to handle well, any archive extraction within nix itself saves a bunch of extra steps and handling | 12:17:19 |
 KFears& 🏳️⚧️ (they/them) | Here's my favorite bootstrapping-adjacent back to date: https://git.auxolotl.org/auxolotl/foundation/src/commit/f7d7ed8f507d30e40a1e543207b332a46336c7b9/src/fetchTarball.nix | 12:22:12 |
| KFears& 🏳️⚧️ (they/them) | (builtins are very silly) | 12:22:35 |
| KFears& 🏳️⚧️ (they/them) | * Here's my favorite bootstrapping-adjacent hack to date: https://git.auxolotl.org/auxolotl/foundation/src/commit/f7d7ed8f507d30e40a1e543207b332a46336c7b9/src/fetchTarball.nix | 12:23:24 |
| helle (just a stray cat girl) | yeah, we need to fix and document a bunch of the builtins..... | 12:23:26 |
 [4fbb09] [it/its] | oh my god i forgot about that | 12:23:38 |
| [4fbb09] [it/its] | that's so funny | 12:23:42 |
| helle (just a stray cat girl) | I do like the idea of somehow making libfetchers non-blocking, but uh, rearchitecturing that is going to be fun | 12:24:12 |
| KFears& 🏳️⚧️ (they/them) | In reply to @helle:tacobelllabs.net
yeah, we need to fix and document a bunch of the builtins..... I have an open (and unfinished) CL on builtin builders, want to take a look? | 12:24:13 |
| helle (just a stray cat girl) | not at the moment, spoons low, discussing things and reading docs is doable, reading code requires keeping too much weird context | 12:24:54 |
| helle (just a stray cat girl) | yes, me reading libfetchers source was a little silly | 12:25:36 |
| helle (just a stray cat girl) | I've done sillier fixes on Lix while in a bad state honestly, but uh | 12:26:33 |
| helle (just a stray cat girl) | trivial doc fixes because I like reading how users interact with stuff, now those I can make in nearly any state | 12:39:00 |
 kloenk | the let me see right now as sitting is good right now to eehh devshell needs so long pipeline :p | 14:09:02 |
 legacy_rootile -> @rootile:flausch.social | what exactly are these two lines testing? (i esp don't get the first one)
nix-instantiate --strict --eval -E "!((import (fetchTree { type = \"tarball\"; url = \"file://$tarball\"; narHash = \"$hash\"; })) ? submodules)" >&2
nix-instantiate --strict --eval -E "!((import (fetchTree { type = \"tarball\"; url = \"file://$tarball\"; narHash = \"$hash\"; })) ? submodules)" 2>&1 | grep 'true'
| 17:15:28 |
