| 1 Jun 2024 |
|  raitobezarius set the room topic to "(Technical) development of Lix, the package manager, a Nix implementation. Please be mindful of ongoing technical conversations in this channel.". | 18:51:27 |
 Qyriad | In reply to@kloenk:kloenk.eu
only getting a You do not have the can-perform-mutations buildbot role. I just want to see some log what actually failed Currently only existing contributors can see the buildbot logs — just becauase buildbot as it is doesn't have any way to allow only certain people to do things like forcibly cancel or restart arbitrary builds, which is something we intend to fix | 21:19:19 |
 kloenk | ah fair. can you tell me what it says? localy the check (only on x86 linux, everything else does not have a test) does succeed. so unsure what to do, or if it's just flakey | 21:21:54 |
| Qyriad | ugh, a remote builder failure. restarted the build | 21:23:52 |
| Qyriad | didn't realize that was your CL; we'll fix your permissions | 21:24:21 |
 ⚠️ eldritch horrors operating in this area ⚠️ | the remote builder should get fixed again, sorry <,< | 21:25:29 |
| Qyriad | there you go; you might have to log out and log back in, but you should have buildbot perms and issue triage perms in forgejo | 21:25:31 |
|  dadada joined the room. | 21:26:25 |
| kloenk | ah thanks works. good to hear that it's nothing with my change :) | 21:48:59 |
| Qyriad | as heads up, your change will probably be deferred until after we finish 2.90 | 21:49:36 |
| kloenk | No worries. I waited 4 years in nixcpp :p | 22:06:15 |
|  Charles joined the room. | 22:31:41 |
 ma27 | Question: is there any way in a DerivationGoal to find out whether you're in a daemon or in a nix-build as a root? I'm a little out of ideas since the store is always a LocalStore here and I didn't manage to write dynamic_cast<SimpleLogger> since that's not implemented in any of the headers.
Context: a while ago I submitted https://gerrit.lix.systems/c/lix/+/913 to get SSH errors in the stderr of a nix-build and I think I found a nicer solution than this (using logger->log basically in DerivationGoal::tryBuildHook).
THe idea is to still use writeStderr (to have errors actually appear in nix-daemon stderr) and to use logger to make it appear in the client's stderr. Then we can probably get rid of the log-fd=4 thingy, at least for ssh-ng (for legacy ssh tests are breaking badly and I'm not entirely sure why yet).
Any ideas? Or is my idea even reasonable? | 22:46:03 |
| ma27 | oh I should probably explain why I want to know: if I do sudo nix-build, I don't go via the daemon and logger->log & writeStderr would write into the "same" stderr, i.e. SSH messages would always appear twice. | 22:47:05 |
| ⚠️ eldritch horrors operating in this area ⚠️ | it'd probably be better to always go through nix-daemon if one exists and treat nix-build without faemin as disaster recovery that needn't be super prettt | 22:52:07 |
|  artemist joined the room. | 22:55:20 |
| ma27 | yeah I only realized that because lazy me was doing sudo ./result/bin/nix to avoid changing my system's daemon %)
but, do you want me to submit a change going into that direction?
and regarding the change I'm currently working on, your suggestion is basically to just accept duplicated messages when "bypassing" the daemon on a remote build? | 22:57:51 |
| ma27 | or did I misunderstand that? :) | 22:57:56 |
| ⚠️ eldritch horrors operating in this area ⚠️ | no you got it right | 22:58:23 |
| artemist | Is there a plan to setup gerrit for lix-installer? I'm working on fixing the tests so I can do more development | 22:58:36 |
| ma27 | ok, thanks for your input!
will try to submit a a CL for that soonish.
but I think I'll go to sleep first :) | 22:59:35 |
| Qyriad | In reply to @pennae:matrix.eno.space
it'd probably be better to always go through nix-daemon if one exists and treat nix-build without faemin as disaster recovery that needn't be super prettt yes, agreed. root defaulting to the local store instead of the daemon is wild behavior and it's better to just fix that instead imo | 23:34:00 |
| 2 Jun 2024 |
|  Federico Damián Schonborn changed their profile picture. | 00:25:40 |
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 jade_ | In reply to @ma27:nicht-so.sexy
yeah I only realized that because lazy me was doing sudo ./result/bin/nix to avoid changing my system's daemon %)
but, do you want me to submit a change going into that direction?
and regarding the change I'm currently working on, your suggestion is basically to just accept duplicated messages when "bypassing" the daemon on a remote build? https://git.lix.systems/lix-project/lix/issues/18 | 00:34:33 |
| jade_ | In reply to @artemist:mildlyfunctional.gay
Is there a plan to setup gerrit for lix-installer? I'm working on fixing the tests so I can do more development we can set it up, that wouldn't be hard at all. we just don't have CI for it at the moment. | 00:35:19 |
| jade_ | if you'd like to have gerrit for it, we can just gerrit it | 00:35:34 |
| artemist | I have some patches to fix the tests | 00:35:37 |
| jade_ | im just going to gerrit it for you, and disable prs for the repo and change our hacky thing to link to that one on gerrit also
if anyone has objections to this i can just revert | 00:40:27 |
 @irenes:matrix.org | sounds good to me | 00:49:46 |
