| 22 May 2024 |
 @irenes:matrix.org | like, I don't think there should be options that break the language itself | 03:25:08 |
 -> @n:rab.lol | In reply to @irenes:matrix.org
like, I don't think there should be options that break the language itself Yes, but also if you want to use "just the language" you'd end up with flakes situation - with flake.nix having .nix extension even though it's actually a subset of nix | 07:30:59 |
| @irenes:matrix.org | yeah, hmmm | 08:04:08 |
| @irenes:matrix.org | that's true | 08:04:10 |
| @irenes:matrix.org | hmm | 08:04:21 |
| @irenes:matrix.org | well, this needs to be weighed carefully | 08:04:26 |
 Grimmauld (moving to @grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.de) | In reply to @federicodschonborn:matrix.org
nix.nix. Need to configure how Nix parses nix.nix? nix.nix.nix I actually configure stuff like lap and lang server and nvim integration for programming languages with one nix file per language. E.g. python.nix, rust.nix, and c.nix. thus I also actually have nix.nix as an existing part of my config | 09:21:40 |
| Grimmauld (moving to @grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.de) | * I actually configure stuff like fmt and lang server and nvim integration for programming languages with one nix file per language. E.g. python.nix, rust.nix, and c.nix. thus I also actually have nix.nix as an existing part of my config | 09:22:00 |
 jade_ | 
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 raitobezarius | can i unsee | 21:21:40 |
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| @irenes:matrix.org | LMAO I didn't know that was public | 22:07:16 |
| @irenes:matrix.org | I continue to adore it | 22:07:20 |
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| 23 May 2024 |
 delroth | how much do people here care about Nix native plugins (plugin-files = foo.so)? the whole way they rely on static initializers is really a pretty terrible API (for many reasons) and I'm already looking at changing that API internally in Lix because it's very broken with static builds | 19:50:17 |
 K900 | Yeet it | 19:50:49 |
| K900 | I've only ever seen it used for absolutely disgusting things | 19:51:05 |
| delroth | (basically: my goal is to get rid of RegisterPrimOp, RegisterStoreImplementation, RegisterCommand, and RegisterStoreImplementation internally in Lix in favor of something which doesn't rely on static initializers, like a simple "void r() { RegisterStore1(); RegisterStore2(); ... } | 19:53:28 |
| delroth | * (basically: my goal is to get rid of RegisterPrimOp, RegisterStoreImplementation, RegisterCommand, and RegisterStoreImplementation internally in Lix in favor of something which doesn't rely on static initializers, like a simple "void RegisterAllStores() { RegisterStore1(); RegisterStore2(); ... }" | 19:53:35 |
| delroth | * (basically: my goal is to get rid of RegisterPrimOp, RegisterStoreImplementation, RegisterCommand, and RegisterStoreImplementation internally in Lix in favor of something which doesn't rely on static initializers, like a simple "void RegisterAllStores() { RegisterStore1(); RegisterStore2(); ... }") | 19:53:38 |
 puck | iirc nix has some kind of non-static-init method | 19:53:49 |
| puck | yeah, void nix_plugin_entry(void) | 19:54:06 |
| puck | we should cherry-pick dc0f7d8 | 19:54:43 |
| -> @n:rab.lol | In reply to @delroth:delroth.net
how much do people here care about Nix native plugins (plugin-files = foo.so)? the whole way they rely on static initializers is really a pretty terrible API (for many reasons) and I'm already looking at changing that API internally in Lix because it's very broken with static builds Native plugins were a mistake | 19:55:08 |
| delroth | I mean, they don't have a very high cost to support from an implementation perspective, so I understand the reasoning that leads people to adding support for them | 19:55:57 |
| -> @n:rab.lol | Personally I’d be down for down the line having something like WASM handle fetcher code or some scripting lang or something | 19:56:07 |
| -> @n:rab.lol | But shared libs as plugins are always not a great experience at best | 19:56:41 |
 Qyriad | I would really rather not yeet plugins but rather make them way more well-behaved | 22:43:59 |
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 FireFly | the only use of them I'm aware of is nix-doc, and well, | 22:54:04 |
