| 23 May 2024 |
 delroth | how much do people here care about Nix native plugins (plugin-files = foo.so)? the whole way they rely on static initializers is really a pretty terrible API (for many reasons) and I'm already looking at changing that API internally in Lix because it's very broken with static builds | 19:50:17 |
 K900 | Yeet it | 19:50:49 |
| K900 | I've only ever seen it used for absolutely disgusting things | 19:51:05 |
| delroth | (basically: my goal is to get rid of RegisterPrimOp, RegisterStoreImplementation, RegisterCommand, and RegisterStoreImplementation internally in Lix in favor of something which doesn't rely on static initializers, like a simple "void r() { RegisterStore1(); RegisterStore2(); ... } | 19:53:28 |
| delroth | * (basically: my goal is to get rid of RegisterPrimOp, RegisterStoreImplementation, RegisterCommand, and RegisterStoreImplementation internally in Lix in favor of something which doesn't rely on static initializers, like a simple "void RegisterAllStores() { RegisterStore1(); RegisterStore2(); ... }" | 19:53:35 |
| delroth | * (basically: my goal is to get rid of RegisterPrimOp, RegisterStoreImplementation, RegisterCommand, and RegisterStoreImplementation internally in Lix in favor of something which doesn't rely on static initializers, like a simple "void RegisterAllStores() { RegisterStore1(); RegisterStore2(); ... }") | 19:53:38 |
 puck | iirc nix has some kind of non-static-init method | 19:53:49 |
| puck | yeah, void nix_plugin_entry(void) | 19:54:06 |
| puck | we should cherry-pick dc0f7d8 | 19:54:43 |
 -> @n:rab.lol | In reply to @delroth:delroth.net
how much do people here care about Nix native plugins (plugin-files = foo.so)? the whole way they rely on static initializers is really a pretty terrible API (for many reasons) and I'm already looking at changing that API internally in Lix because it's very broken with static builds Native plugins were a mistake | 19:55:08 |
| delroth | I mean, they don't have a very high cost to support from an implementation perspective, so I understand the reasoning that leads people to adding support for them | 19:55:57 |
| -> @n:rab.lol | Personally I’d be down for down the line having something like WASM handle fetcher code or some scripting lang or something | 19:56:07 |
| -> @n:rab.lol | But shared libs as plugins are always not a great experience at best | 19:56:41 |
 Qyriad | I would really rather not yeet plugins but rather make them way more well-behaved | 22:43:59 |
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 FireFly | the only use of them I'm aware of is nix-doc, and well, | 22:54:04 |
 Lunaphied | In reply to @puck:puck.moe
iirc nix has some kind of non-static-init method This was added for C API no? | 22:54:06 |
| puck | yes, but it works for C++ too | 22:54:42 |
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| Lunaphied | Yeah I'm just verifying that was part of the C API work | 23:00:23 |
| 24 May 2024 |
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| 25 May 2024 |
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 julia | just bumping this gerrit change here; might not ending up working on it tonight, but been waiting on some advice on how to do tests regarding e.g. a store returning a bad store path etc, because I can't see any existing tests doing it / can't parse how the existing store mock tests work | 07:56:42 |
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| 26 May 2024 |
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 SebTM | Hey, I'm having an issue with lix (already with nix) I wanted to ask if there is a solution or issue (otherwise I can open one): I use some private repositories containing flakes which I can only reach via VPN - sometimes I forget to connect and nix takes just forever when it tries to connect there instead of a timeout/error? | 12:53:06 |
| puck | hrm, this might be worth opening an issue for, i think. would be useful to post e.g. a curl -v trace of the same URL | 12:54:56 |
| delroth | https://git.lix.systems/lix-project/lix/issues/305 is maybe relevant? | 14:01:40 |
