| 7 Mar 2022 |
 matthewcroughan - nix.zone | You are definitely jumping the gun. | 17:55:54 |
 Alyssa Ross | surely it's better to catch this sort of thing early, than to wait until it's too late? | 17:56:57 |
| Alyssa Ross | at this stage, it's easy to resolve to everybody's satisfaction | 17:57:21 |
 Linux Hackerman | So if the boards were sent out and then I complained, it would be more reasonable? | 17:57:42 |
| Alyssa Ross | if it hadn't come up until the boards had been sent out, it would be a lot more difficult to do anything about it | 17:57:48 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | No, none of what you've said so far, is in my view reasonable. | 17:58:07 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I've sent an email to someone, they've offered us boards, you've made me feel bad for trying. | 17:58:28 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Worse yet, I was transparent, and was worse criticised and demotivated by being transparent. | 18:00:16 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | * Worse yet, I was transparent, and was worse criticized and demotivated by being transparent. | 18:00:19 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | And that transparency wasn't valuable, because you never raised the concern sooner. | 18:00:33 |
| Alyssa Ross | Nobody has any problem with you trying to get boards | 18:01:47 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | It is not fair to derail the channel like this either, if you want to continue anything please PM me. | 18:02:02 |
| Linux Hackerman | matthewcroughan - nix.zone: how would you feel about me sending this email to the VisionFive people along with a transcript of this chat?
Hi,
It's come to my attention that you're corresponding with Matthew Croughan about getting some VisionFive development boards into the hands of NixOS developers who would work on getting NixOS working on them. I'd love to see this initiative succeed! However, I'm somewhat concerned that Matt might have unintentionally misled you concerning the level of organisation and commitment of the initiative. For the sake of transparency, I thought I'd let you know about this. Please find attached a transcript of the discussion we had in the public "Exotic Nix Targets" Matrix channel (#exotic:nixos.org) concerning the matter, I'll leave forming an opinion on the matter up to you.
Hoping we'll still get those boards!
Linus
| 18:05:32 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Thanks for the bullying and takeover. | 18:06:36 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | I hope you feel good about it. | 18:06:43 |
| matthewcroughan - nix.zone | Hope you get the boards, I'll be signing off now. | 18:06:50 |
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 Yuka (she/her) | Meh | 18:10:49 |
| Linux Hackerman | (I did not send this email) | 18:11:31 |
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| Linux Hackerman | I was hoping to get a response from Matt other than accusing me of bullying and ragequitting. | 18:22:52 |
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| samueldr | I haven't read all of it, but I did send an application on May 3, 2021 to the RISC-V seed program, and never received any retroaction | 18:29:33 |
| samueldr | though I suppose if there is no coordinated action things can look messy; though mine was sent as a individual maintaining NixOS things, and not as any form of direct NixOS organization representation | 18:30:45 |
| samueldr | Tow-Boot wasn't announced/public yet, so it was left a bit hazy around work "related to the boot process" | 18:31:37 |
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| Yuka (she/her) | Is anyone else still interested in getting a board through Matthew? | 19:47:39 |
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| 9 Mar 2022 |
 [0x4A6F] | In reply to @zhaofeng:zhaofeng.li
For those with a VisionFive board, a NixOS SD image is now available at https://github.com/zhaofengli/nixos-riscv64/releases/tag/2022022600 (more info here). Could you give it a try? Thanks to ius for figuring out the kernel issues above (additionally stmmac needs to be built-in and then ethernet works). I see the ones from the visionfive-sponsorship-program have been used successfully. :) | 18:47:32 |
